Well, it looks like the 911 Liars are still in the majority here. As of about 8 or 9 PM, I have these totals:
Remember that psychology experiment, where they have someone perform a simple judgment task, such as find the biggest triangle? And then you sit in a group, with a varying number of agitators, who deliberately pick the wrong things? Peer pressure is a powerful force.
Reply to this if you want to be in a different category. . .
Pretty sure Iād rather be in what youāre calling Liarā¦
Apparently the conspiracy is so big now that the majority of people everywhere are in on it. Those Truthers better get on board soon if they want a slice of the hush money.
I can believe as many as six impossible things before breakfast, if I really try 
(paraphrasing Lewis Carroll)
Waitā¦ why the fuck am I not on the āLiarā list!!! Wow, I feel quite insulted.
I donāt see your name on the list. Probably because your comments happened later than my analysis.
You put me under āTruthā with all the people I disagree with.
Sorry, reviewing your comments, I can see that is the case. My apologies.
I just quickly classified each comment, and then sorted the list. Then did some other stuff, and didnāt get around to posting it until 11 or soā¦
Mistakes were made.
Bullshit. Thereās clearly a conspiracy here.
Oh boy, Truthers now have an āenemies listā of badthink. It feels good to be first up against the wall when the crazies be crazy.
I had a big dinner tonight, I think Iāll go make a similar analysis.
Hey, go for it.
Even better, write a script to automate it
Itās a fairly automated process.
Thatās the plot of the pilot episode of the X-Files spin-off The Lone Gunmen.
(Which was broadcast six months before 9/11. Which tells us ā terrorists watch Fox too?)
Aw man, I wouldnāt have sat this thread out if I knew there was going to be a congratulatory list.
So here are my thoughts: the Bush administration has proved itself entirely untrustworthy on all this. It is plain they wanted a war with Iraq, and came up with whatever false narrative could justify it. But where in that does it make sense to pin the attacks on pilots from Arabia, which was not fought, and a terrorist organization from Afghanistan, which they fought but plainly considered a side issue?
Setting aside the physical evidence for a moment, usually the most solid part of a conspiracy theory is the cui bono. And there isnāt one here except for Osama, who saw the USSR fall apart after getting bogged down in Afghanistan. Because even if youāre criminal enough to fake grounds for war, that can be done ā and done popularly ā much easier, more effectively, and in ways that actually lead to your desired target.
You can expect there to be unusual things and coincidences in any major disaster, because they donāt happen without them, not being commonplace. Some of them are engineered, and lots of them are lied about to some extent. But the type of lies so often proposed donāt make any sense here.
Anyway, it seems out of place that xkcd hasnāt been posted here, so I wanted to fix that.
I wouldnāt be terribly surprised if the government lied about or covered up certain aspects of 9/11ā¦they are dishonest about things all the time.
BUT until sufficient evidence is presented to prove any such actions Iāll stick with Occamās Razor and assume the most likely scenario is reasonably close to the one weāve been presented with.
Why canāt I give your comment multiple likes? I keep clicking the button but it just takes the like away and then returns it, endlesslyā¦ with much sarcasm I blame the BoingBoing conspiracy!
Iād like to have been a fly on the wall for that planning meeting.
A: We need to come up with some kind of pretense for going to war with Iraq.
B: Iāve got it! A fake terrorist attack against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon!
A: And we blame the Iraqis, brilliant!
B: No, no. We blame Saudi extremists operating out of Afghanistan.
A: Wait, why would that rally Americans to war against Iraq? Besides, Saudi Arabia is our ally!
B: Trust me, when those bombs go off everybody is going to want to invade Iraq in retaliation.
A: Why the hell would Americans want to invade Iraq in retaliation for a Saudi bomb plot??
B: Not in retaliation against bomb a plot. In retaliation for a series of airplane hijackings.
A: But you just saidā¦
B: Look, do I have to spell it out for you? We secretly rig all the buildings to collapse with remote-controlled explosives, but make it LOOK like they were destroyed by hijacked airplanes.
A: That is literally the stupidest, most convoluted, least-likely-to-succeed plan Iāve ever heard in my life. Why not just use a bomb and blame terrorists, like the ones who tried to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993? Or just actually crash some real planes and let the buildings burn? Why not tell everyone that the terrorists were from the country weāre actually trying to create a pretense to invade??
B: Fuck you, thatās why.
Heck, considering the amount of aluminum in an airplane, plus magnesium, which is what you generally use to get thermite burning, wouldnāt an airliner catching fire under the right conditions basically be thermite anyway? (By under the right conditions I mean having enough oxidiser present.)
Nice XKCD comic, but I like this one better. Why canāt BOTH sides be right?
That may be part of it, although itās not a secret people keep, but Iām not sure itās that simple. Conspiracy theories can genuinely help the world make sense. You donāt have history rendered shapeless by black swans, outlandish events with no explanation beyond multiple coincidences. I mentioned thatās why rare events are rare because without keeping that in mind, rejecting all that would be my tendency too.
As someone who read things like the Planiverse and imagined how great it would be to be someone who makes things like that, I wanted to commiserate with this particular sadness. Likewise, I know she went off the rails from the yeah-well-you-said-I-was-wrong-before effect, but Lynn Margulis was still a respectable author to me and it was a hit to find her in the same boat.
