Exactly! And in the uh, nether regions.
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So following the idea that “Feminists are obsessed with rape because the wish to be raped” we can come to the following conclusions.
- MRAs are obsessed with emasculation because they wish to be emasculated.
- Evangelicals are obsessed with sodomy because they wish to be sodomized.
- Etc. Ad nauseam.
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I think this is literally true.
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Yep. Toxic masculinity is a real thing.
I’d think wanting to be a doctor would be right in step with toxic masculinity. After all, focused academic study builds character, and character is something men have. Moreover, a doctor is a highly respected position in society, and men command respect. Also, think about all the money doctors make! If the goal is to attract women with money and status, while building up dubious masculine traits in the process, then that sounds about right for toxic masculinity.
Wanting to play a musical instrument, on the other hand, or God forbid, be a visual artist, is a completely different story.
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It’s not and never has been about the relative ease or difficulty of getting consensual sex. It’s completely about punishing someone for daring to enjoy life
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How can rape be the pinnacle of male desire (according to the quote), and at the same time something men aren’t interested in? 
Edit: missing word
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marriage. 
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Hoary chestnut is hoary.
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Speak for yourself 
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Hey…I still find it humorous. Probably because I’m old.
@sagoli was making the joke for sake of making the joke.
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I just grabbed the profession with the longest dedicated training that came to mind. The med school student and resident I knew was basically an automaton for years, but you are right that aspirations of men are tied directly with the same message that it involves conquering women too. Same exact thing goes for music and art though, I think we just used mental references that relate to those we know.
Regardless of profession or passion, the message is that the only reason to compete is to be manly and get a woman. Hell, a big part of the alt-right movement is about being manly men who breed prolifically.
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Fair enough, I guess I see it as one of those expectation things like emo_pinata mentioned upthread. Like, life is how you perceive it, no?
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I believe those, for sure. I know a person who isn’t exactly an MRA, but he does espouse some of their views. It’s frustrating and irritating, but I find that if I (ahem) behave in a very dominating way it scales back. If I engage in physical domination, he’s sweet. If I go even further, he’s kind and generous.
Perhaps there are so many MRAs because they don’t have the gumption to tell the people in their lives that they wish to be dominated and sodomized. N of 1, for sure, but it makes sense to me.
I have to assume something similar for evangelicals, because I can’t stomach being around religionists for very long.
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I’m down with that…
No, they don’t and they don’t care. They use the Bible to justify their stupidity and think that they can tell everyone else how to live.
It’s morphed into the TGOP…
Can’t happen to soon.
Damn right to both!!
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absolutely true. I always do say though…most jokes, especially tropes, do come from some element of truth. Many marriages suffer sexually in reality. Not because of the partners themselves, but because of the inherent distractions that can come. Kids, Careers, Education, Soccer practice here, baseball there, piano lessons, sleepovers, birthdays, plays, concerts, choirs, band practice, drivers ed, ON AND ON…life gets too busy and things begin to fall by the way side as priorities conflict.
For most married couples…the sex life is the first thing to suffer. It shouldn’t…but it often does.
Regardless. joke was made and its an old trope. Its just a cake, nothing more.
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And yet studies show that people in a marriage have, on average, MORE sex than single people, even single people in sexual relationships.
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Which means one group of people is lying in one of the studies somewhere.
Or your experience is n=1.
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You do realize that many unmarried people have kids too, right?
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ok. to both @anon67050589 and @emo_pinata it was a trope joke. let’s not derail the focus of what the thread is supposed to be about. My bad for making it knowing full well it was going to become a source of focus when it shouldn’t be.
