This is from the guy who bought up all those *.news TLDs.
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Hopefully, the Daily Beast author isn’t holding their breath waiting for him to say it’s a terrorist attack…
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I mean, I think that was back in the 70s, so no, not really…
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Aren’t we supposed to be concerned about DINOs now? Because the best response to our current disaster is to follow the culture war, purity politics and infighting that lead to it?
At this point its getting a little weird. But they apparently contain real explosives. At least two bombs its been identified as black powder/gun powder. This thing is getting strange.
We don’t know how these were meant to be triggered yet. And mail bombs are often meant to explode on opening none of these were opened. So that might explain it.
IIRC at least a few. And especially early on some of them misfired, detonated early or late. Bombs that just weren’t big enough to do the job. Unabomb was some what unique in that his bombs were fairly well made, and reliable once he got it down.
Other package bombers have oretty high failure rates. Non detonations, early detonstions, bombs too big or small etc. Seem to be the normal cause of these things. And few paclage bombers have gotten anywhere near as many bombs out, as successfully, and for as long as Unabomb. He shouldn’t be taken as an example of how this should look.
Its possible. But all the packages have thst return address. Its part of how they’re flagging things now. And several other packages had mistakes in the address. Holder’s was just the only one that was undeliverable. Its more likely that it was intended to disguise the packages.
A package from their familiar over lord. Of course they’ll accept it. With the added bonus that Wasserman-schultz gets then if there’s a problem.
Yeah but he’s not exactly a part of the Pizzagate cast the way the rest are.
A good chunk of the idiology is tied up in the fact that they believe themselves entitled to unilateral control of spaces and social situations. They’re being censored if they aren’t allowed to hold men’s rights ralliea at the women’s shelter.
Absolutely. But your old white supremecist groups were effectively lower class criminal gangs, the 3rd Klan was largely good ole boys, your militia grouos were traditionally blue collar and uneducated. In membership not neccisarily leadership. And there were a lot of striaght up old white dudes at the head of these things.
The Alt right is mostly college educated, white collar tech workers below the age of 45 top to bottom.
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From his mouth to Fox’s ears.
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Silly lady, Democrats might get elected if Republicans don’t show up to vote with AR-15’s strapped to their backs!
[I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.]
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I have to disagree. All three major interations of the KKK have included some elites seeking to protect the white power structure, from the original, led by folks like Nathan Bedford Forest, to the second, which was a nation wide organization, to the 3rd, which included many people who were also running white citizen councils and participating with the KKK, too, they were just far more likely to hide that fact during the 3rd KKK. The 60s KKK being full of ignorant good old boys is largely a myth to erase how much elites in the south participated, not just in the protests against integration, but in the violence against segregation.
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They were poorly made devices and no rational person could seriously believe that such antiquated attempts at harassment would ever actually reach the intended targets.
This was an intimidation tactic.
Edited for typos.
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Yeah. Especially at the top. But point was that however applicable the “hillbillies in Tennesse” stereotype was (and it was never particularly applicable, 80’s and 90’s Pennsylvania had the highest number of KKK chapters and hate groups of any state). Its definitely doesn’t apply to the alt right.
The better comparison point for the Alt Right is probably the Tea Party. Which was very old, and most dominant in Rural areas and your expected red states. Though many Teabags were pretty well off (is the owner of a construction company with 3 homes and a brand new luxary pickup really “working class”). You were seeing a lot of blue collar workers, unemployed people, and retirees from public sector jobs or fading industries. Educations levels were mixed, but a lot of people without college, or higher level degrees.
The alt right by comparison are endemic in silicon valley, is mostly college educated, is made up of white collar workers or people who expected to be white collar workers but aren’t. Tech and other high demand, skilled work seems over represented. And the vast bulk of them are younger and more “respectible” than generally expected for hard core right wing movements. Hence all the navel gazing “what happened to this nice boy to make him so edgy” bullshit.
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Alt-Right, Tea Party, John Birch Society… The money driving it is always the same.
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Well said, Flossie.
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Of course, someone who mails pipe bombs out to politicians is not an especially rational person to begin with. I can easily believe this was some right-wing nut who thought they totally could bomb their targets.
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I’d change that to “college credentialed” (h/t Jane Jacobs), but otherwise that is the profile. However, the alt-right is quickly finding affinities and merge points with the “old-right”, including establishment conservatives (e.g. the Proud Boys at the NYC Republican Club) and the militia and sovereign-citizen and Bundy types. That latter group tends to have fewer college degrees and tends to do blue-collar or farm work (or at least affects it while really being land owners).
If there’s a common connective tissue metastasising between all of these various groups*, it’s a combination of racial entitlement, sexism, and capital-L Libertarianism. A white atheist incel techie with a CS degree working in SV and a MAGA-screaming white Xtianist high school dropout with a wife and several mistresses who just lost his factory job in the midwest would have those three things in common.
[* beyond money from right-wing billionaires, as @RickMycroft notes above]
As with Walter White, the answer to that question is “he was always an arsehole.”
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I’ve heard talk that aside from the motivation of intimidation, this could have been an act of real life driving trollies; if that’s the case, then not only is the person/people behind it highly irrational, they also have way too much free time on their hands.
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Multiple successful letter bombing campaigns have taken place in recent years. The most recent one was in Austin Texas earlier this year. Several people were killed.
These “antiquated” methods still work rather well and we’re not terribly good at dealing with package bombings, even those utilizing the mail.
Absolutely. Its part of what distinguishes them from your classic flavor neo-nazis (baring Illinois Nazis). While those guys had their “intellectual” figurheads, political class and political connections. In large part they operated as classic organized crime gangs and were heavily involved in illegal gun sales and drug running. Other white supremecists groups were more purely terror groups and had their IRA/Sinn Fein style political fronts. So too classic militia groups.
The Alt Right sees an offloading/rejection of the outright criminal element, and flattening of the rest almost entirely into the political end of it. Its what people are gesturing to when they talk about the new hate being more “respectible”. Of course its not anymore respectible. Its been built primarily as a normal political movement, from what used to be the political, “respectible” layer of such things. A genuine fascist political party/movement. Not a fringe group of seperatists, or drug gang, or secretive terror sect.
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But again. Last I checked the crazy end of this shit wasn’t obsessed with the idea that DeNiro was taking orders from George Soros to funnel nubile 5 years olds to John Podesta so he could RIGGED
He’s not a major feature of either the conspiracies or the mainstream rhetoric about whos ruining America and who needs to be defeated.
So this thing has expanded from MAGA’s most wanted to any prominent liberal.
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Makes sense
Naw, I’m allergic to paperwork and cops.
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