Arizona school teacher suspended for wearing a devil costume to school

Boy, that wholly imaginary teacher sounds like a real jerk.

What’s your point?

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Well. That would certainly keep you cooler.

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Bit of a mixed message if you ask me.

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Shiny side out? That’s what they want you to think…

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You got me, there, but I am still thankful for my thumbs.

Really? There are kids of all religions in classrooms, and most teachers understand who identifies as what. It’s highly insensitive to taunt one for his. I see the humor in one poke, but you have to leave him be if he has to push the fork out of the way multiple times.

You can fault the teacher for excessive poking/teasing without making up a ridiculous false equivalency involving Nazis.

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That was excessive. I’m glad you got my point. :wink:

The fictional figure of the devil NEVER COMMITTED GENOCIDE…

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Now God, on the other hand…

Not even god, no… the people believing that they are following god and acting in his name. Events like this (genocide, mass murder, war, etc) are not supernatural, they are entirely man made. It’s people doing it. always, people who have choices and could have made different ones, but instead did not. And people have also committed mass murder based on non-religious ideas, too. So, no, it’s not even “god and the devil” as ideas that are the problem. The nazis were not really motivated by supernatural views (at least in their mind), but by what they saw as the real engine of history, racial conflict. They saw Jewish people as being in an existential struggle with “aryans” and that it was a key aspect of “race science.” No god there… Nor in imperialism (even if god was used as part of justifying empire). Nor in communism. Nor in capitalism.

Blaming it on “god” or the “devil” doesn’t help us to understand the how and why. It’s merely obscures historical processes, covers up the agency of people involved, and makes it seem inevitable. If you want genocide to seem inevitable, then by all means, blame it on god or the devil rather than on the people who did it. I’d prefer to live in a world where we look at and describe human activity over time in order to do better… :woman_shrugging:

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The flood?

Okay, clearly, y’all are intentionally missing my point now… either that or you’re just making fun of me, in which case, are we in grade school now, that people making a point get picked on rather than treated with any kind of respect?

I’ll say it again, since I’m being unclear somehow… god and the devil are fiction constructs that can’t act in the world, except via people acting as if they’re real. Nazis were very much real, their ideas hold sway in this world, and they committed very real acts of violence that killed millions of people. The conflation of the two is really out of line.

Feel free to go back to mocking me, but I think I’ve made my point.

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I did get your point, and wasn’t mocking you, but I apologize if it sounded that way.

I was actually poking fun at the Christians (and other Abrahamic religions) for worshipping someone who they claim committed multiple acts of genocide, often on innocent people. And yet they say the devil’s bad.

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But Satan is real!

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“We have such sights to show you… PLEASE LOGIN OR CREATE AN ACCOUNT”

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truth preach GIF

“Preach”… /s

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I rather suspect the description of the teacher’s behavior was exaggerated and that this is just fundie freakout.

Note that Mesa is part of the Phoenix metropolitan area. At least when I was there the only university was Arizona State University–whose mascot is the Sun Devil, the logo posted upthread. After the university I worked in Mesa while still living two blocks from ASU. If you have a problem with devils maybe you should choose a different area to live?

I’m the same way. I’ve had this one for quite a while and am hesitant to use it. This much power requires a fitting occasion. Would one turn a fire hose on an ant? I’d think not.

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Related to folks blaming “Satan” for the world’s ills:

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