Much more valuable than money is time.
Grassroots volunteers. Knock on doors, phone bank, support your local unions on the picket lines, show up for immigrant support networks, get involved with the DSA or your local anarchists.
Politics is not a spectator sport.
Biden is a blatantly racist, blatantly misogynistic, blatantly corrupt warmonger.
Your bar is much too low.
Inslee was in the House at the time and he voted against it.
Your confidence that he has any actual beliefs at all gives him more credit than I would.
The principale of maximum likelihood suggests that a Biden administration will be an imagination-free shadow of the Obama-Biden administration, with any actual important ideas - good or bad - coming from the legislature.
Letâs not cast aspersions on Satan.
Also, itâs important to remember that however bad the Democratic candidate personally (from my perspective, the worst would probably be Tulsi Gabbard), having a Democrat in the White House has a massive impact because it puts the exceutive branch in Democratic hands. Which means there are going to be people who know what theyâre doing in charge of the various federal bureaus, ministries, etc., instead of a bunch of sycophantic incompetents trying to wreck everything.
And even the most lackluster Dem presidents arenât going to go around throwing out executive orders to screw with LGBTQ+ folks, or undocumented immigrants, or whatever; at worst, theyâll be indifferent and ignore the issues, which is worlds better than the active hostility and malice from the Republicans.
Right? And itâs very unlikely theyâd ignore them, since they now make up a significant part of their base. The whole concept of supporting peopleâs free expression of their identities* has become a baseline talking point for the new stars of the Democratic Party.
*offer does not apply to Neo-Nazis, see your dealer for details
Sheâs really not that bad; sheâs one of my stateâs 2 congresspeople, and sheâs done an OK job of representing us. As wary as I am of her whole clan (both family and local social/professional circle), I honestly think she would make a better president than many of the 177 or so people who have filed for the nomination.
If Biden did not have the baggage of having been, you know, Barrack Obamaâs VP, he would be a good bet to primary â„rump, as a Republican.
Full disclosure: Biden is my last choice for the Democratic nominee, but if he does get the nomination, Iâll hold my nose and vote for him in the general.
Now, I know you arenât a concern troll because I took the time to look at your comments via the activity thread, but you are pretty deep in what I call Grouchy Grandpa country here. Basically, the gist of what you are saying is that you have a visceral dislike and are now fishing for reasons to support that dislike, combined with the disillusioned view that The Man is too strong.
I am actually seeing that a lot here, and not just from you: a gut dislike against Warren, or in @Wanderfoundâs case Biden, which is demotivating, disheartening and just plain turning people off. Letâs just remember that we have a lot â a lot â of good candidates this time around. Letâs work hard to not just take back the White House, but also to trounce those Republicans in Congress who are up for reelection as well!
Whilst i agree with the sentiment, with a two-party-biased system similar to the UK that you have, voting for the lesser of two evils just legitimises both main parties and guarantees youâll only ever get evilâŠ
Vote for what you actually want IMHO, even if your vote gets ignored/discarded (and push for voting reform ALWAYS)
May not be the correct option, but i feel itâs the moral oneâŠ
The difference there is their fears about Hillary were based on rumor, conspiracy theory and spite. Where as Donald Trump had done, and bragged about, nearly everything Hillary was accused of. And thus far has done everything that conservatives predicted Hillary, Obama, and nearly any Democratic or left wing candidate would do in office. Hell one of their central public points of opposition was that Clinton would not be able to govern, as her presidency would be defined by non stop scandal and investigations. Which, look at the American news.
People are making these justifications in case of Biden because we have an actual fascist in office. Because the man running our country is putting children in camps, freely violating the law, directly attacking base civil rights. And openly threatening to do more. He is distainful of the free press, free speach, and other corner stones of a free society. He advocates for the prosecution of opponents and critics on the grounds that they are opponents and critics. And these things are not sour grapes. Or pearl clutching predictions for the future. They are confirmed, real events. Acknowledged, excused, and often celebrated by his supporters and political faction.
The calls to support whoever his eventual challenger ends up being are not rote partisanship. But based on the fact that Donald Trump must be removed from office. That even a more routine sort of bad president is a better choice and a safer outcome.
So the anti-choice lobbyist says the word peace and weâre supposed to cheer? Gabbardâs early career is defined by associations and positions that arenât just right of center. But were outright conservative. And while her quite recent rebranding as a progressive came via an apology tour she still maintains associations and funding from the same groups she was formerly an active participant in. And she was one of the very first Democrats to cosy up to Trump, even campaigning based on the association.
What exactly is non-status quo about a conservative Democrat whoâs policies are as vague as the apologies she offers for past more specific ones. Whatâs non-status quo about a politician whoâs positions are so obviously based on cynical triangulation? Whatâs non-status quo about cryptically supporting the incumbent she now seeks to challenge?
She certainly wants you to think that. But while her apologies present her history as a simple âi belived x but i changedâ situation. The reality is she worked actively and vociferously to curtail reproductive and LGBT rights. She did damage. She hasnât and wont acknowledge that. And only publickly âchanged her mindâ on these subjects when they became a liability for her campaigns for public office. Worse sheâs shown no interest in working as hard to advance those rights as she once did to remove them.
Her actual voting record as a progressive is both recent and weak. And there isnât a ton of daylight between her more recent actions actually governing and the centrist block of the DNC.
She doesnât have a hope of being elected because her campaign has apparently been in disarray since before it launched.
To be fair to Biden, I also think that most of the rest of the US ruling class are corrupt, racist, mass-murdering scum. Heâs not the only one.
And thereâs nothing âgutâ about it; itâs based upon a lifetime study of world history.
Which is part of my point.
A Biden nomination would be absolutely catastrophic for volunteer and voter turnout. Almost every part of the Democratic Partyâs supposed base has good reason to despise him.
To be frank, I donât have a dislike against Warren, Biden or AOC or even Trump.
I pity all of them, Tulsi included, because there is no democracy in your country. You have only a bi-partisan corporate kleptocracy that exists solely to protect its own interests.
And because you have no hope, you delude yourselves, believing that replacing republicans with democrats will bring hope and change, just as you believed Obama.
But at the same time you conveniently ignore the fact that the richest country in the world is home to 43 million people who live in poverty.
That you have a penal system which is a profit-making enterprise and holds 1/4 of the worldâs prison population.
That your global dominance depends on supplying arms to 73% of the worldâs dictatorships.
That every post-war US president would, if held to Nuremberg laws be hanged for war crimes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdD9uSrNFT4
Iâm sorry to break the news but your country is f*cked.
Carry on debating candidates by all means.
Iâm sure the fiddle players on the Titanic thought they were making a change too.
My reasons for not voting for her are my own, and are not a reflection of how the GOP wanted me to feel about her.
With regard to Clinton/Trump vote ratios in my county and state - all the electoral votes still went to her. So I didnât elect Trump.
Well, you should be careful with that.
Someone in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin might have heard you.
The best thing about demonizing another country is that it lets you off the hook for any genuine activism, ie stuff that involves more than being hyperbolic at a computer keyboard. Obviously you canât take direct action in demon country, since thereâs all that distance (and maybe water). Meanwhile, for all the bad stuff at home, you can tell yourself that (a), it isnât so bad, at least by comparison to demon country, and (b) it is all demon countryâs fault anyway.
I think you just hit upon why some of our esteemed forum members who are not eligible to vote in the USA are so cranky. Me, I thought it was more akin to yelling from the bleachers, since they have no real skin in the game and imagine that when it all goes to shit, they will only be spectators â little do they realise that they are well within the shrapnel zone, and may even get hit worse than those they are hoping will fail.
Fret not, all around the world weâre fully aware that any sh*t-storm your country creates - be it economic, military or environmental - weâll all join you in being smeared in the the rotting stench.
Thatâs why we watch in earnest. So we can run and take cover before the b*mbs hits us.
Weâre not demonizing you. This is not hyperbole.
Everything Iâve said is factual.
Feel free to pick anything Iâve said and refute its veracity.
As for your specific points:
a) it isnât so bad, at least by comparison to demon country -yes, thatâs right, but weâre not far behind you
b) it is all demon countryâs fault anyway - spot on. Well done.
