Maybe if they’re okay with Bill Clinton being a documented underage sex offender (which is only rumored, of course, but may come out). I can’t speak for centrist Democrats, but all of the non-centrist Democrats I know are basically like “well, sure, if he did that, screw him.”
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Yet another reason to cheer for an indictment Clinton, if he indeed took part. At least some Trumpkins would see that bringing down the Epstein Gang isn’t a librul conspiracy.
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I’m afraid to look, but I would point out that Maurene Comey, daughter of James, is one of the sex crimes prosecutors on this case.
Maurene Comey: known angry democrat and part of the Deep State conspiracy to take down Trump. Sad!
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I don’t. Throwing people under the bus for sex related offenses is pretty common among Democrats. Al Franken’s departure is a good example of how they typically respond to scandal.
We are still not sure Trump’s justice department will. The SDNY has a long history of independence from political toadying.
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Wait, being okay with Bill Clinton (or anyone else of any party) being found guilty, if evidence exists, of participating in underage orgies is “throwing them under the bus”?
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That photo I recognize.
It was supposedly taken at Mar a Lago a year after Epstein was banned by Trump for coming on to a member’s daughter. The ban did not last long, and I wonder why?
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You beat me to it; but yesterday was my ‘big cake’ day, so I wasn’t online.
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I feel like the real battleground isn’t over whether we are against people who have committed heinous crimes, but what standard of proof we use to believe that someone has committed a heinous crime. I don’t think centrist democrats would step up to defend someone if there was solid evidence against them, but they may have a tendency to discount evidence that they would find convincing if it were evidence against Trump.
Like I think if Clinton were a republican a lot more Democrats would believe Juanita Broaddrick, would remember Bill Clinton as someone who sexually harassed interns (instead of thinking of Clinton as a president who elicited un-pressured consent from an intern, somehow), would condemn Hilary Clinton’s role in attacking the accusers, etc.
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I think you’ve hit it square on the head.
Nothing illustrates your point more than the fact that there are people in 2019 who require more evidence that Bill Clinton is a fucking garbage human being who should be launched into the sun and never heard from again.
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Well that’s easy. Trump’s been working in this for a very long time! So close to cracking the child sex trafficking!
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Pretty much,. We expect conservatives to double down on denial/defense of a Republican, regardless of evidence. Its as if it is expected from them.
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He reminds me so much of Mussolini.
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I’m sure the Q anon people will easily call this a win for Trump, and that it means he’s very close to arresting Hillary.
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I’m really hoping you just have a different sense of the context implied when some one is “thrown under the bus” but…
I don’t think distancing yourself from a criminal involved in a child sex ring is the kind of “betrayal” implied by “throwing some one under the bus.” In that sense, the criminal is the bus. I expect republicans to place tribalism above all else. I think that’s more like getting on the bus.
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In fact, they like to complain that Democrats have no loyalty.
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Lots of things seem pretty clear but the people involved somehow avoid consequences. By all means, if we can apply justice to any other scumbags as a result of this, even better.
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All that money and he choose to be a creepy perv. What a waste.
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That’s something I really don’t get about that culture. I have a lot of loyalty… to myself. If I betray that primary loyalty to another’s interest when it challenges my respect for myself then the loyalty I offer them is a lie to both of us and the rewards of that lie will feel empty. I honestly wonder do they get what they’re looking for in that or are they just a weird mix of people who are either absolute sociopaths or eyebrows deep in some kind of shame.
When it comes to something like this I could not live with myself for enabling it.
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And loyalty to what? The literal letter “R” with parentheses around it? Because when disloyalty is brought up it’s often leveled at people who stood by the professed principles of the party over loyalty to a prominent member. That’s the overwhelming model with Trump at least. Democrats are plenty loyal, to the cause which means tossing out the odd bad apple here and there.
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So he went to prison for doing a little of what he did, then he kept mountains of evidence of his other crimes and further crimes in his home? You can’t cure entitled.
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