Yeah, I dunno how fucking crazy/stupid one has to be to shamelessly assert that the United States in the only country in the world that actually values human life.
All the other lies (e.g. that increased immigration increases crime, that terrorists are “coming by land” etc.) pale in comparison, just due to how weird a lie it is.
I’m not entirely sure that’s what she was meaning to say, but it came out, so she’s standing by it, no matter how obviously absurd it is. But I’m sure there are plenty of American dumbfucks who believe that.
Like Trump, the reality simply doesn’t matter to her. It’s irrelevant to the messaging.
I’m not sure about that. Trump seems to have some actual disorder. With Sanders, I think there is a threshold of shame that could be crossed that she would bow out because she just couldn’t take it anymore. With Trump there is none, he responds to a completely different spectrum of social responses.
The headline seems to imply that “facts” are in some way, shape or form relevant to the base. That is the one and only group statements like this are aimed at. And since she said it, the base will believe it. And Chris will get lots of hate emails about “fake news” and “enemy of the people.” It’s very sad, but also very predictable. Truth, facts and data are absolutely anathema to these people, only used by “libtards” and “sheeple.” These oh-so-wise red pill people know that truth come from the party and only from the party. Truth is lies, war is peace, etc…
And at the end she slides in a misappropriation of the “Opioid Epidemic” framed as a problem produced by illegal narcotics coming across the border, rather than a problem of pharmaceuticals sold within the borders. Disgusting.
I suppose $179700/year works for her as a sleeping pill. Cheap for having the job of funneling a shit-river of lies and distortions and consorting with a traitor.
It really is, at least as far as power within a particular public sphere is concerned. Shameless prominent African-Americans in showbiz and sports have a lot more power and credibility than equally prominent ones in politics or business do – even with racists.
I keep thinking about this, about how absurd and obscene her argument is (beyond the lies themselves). She seems to be saying that, because immigrants might kill someone (despite the fact that they do so at a lower rate than native-born Americans, thus lowering the crime rate when they come here), because America (and America only) values human lives, we have to ban anything that might kill someone.
But that argument works for literally anything. The argument begins to make sense when applied to things like weapons or air pollution - yet the Trump administration argument is the reverse when it comes to regulation (amounting to: “So some more people die? So what?”) So it’s not just laughable, it’s clearly a disingenuous position as well. I know, I know, there’s nothing new about any of this. It’s more lies and absurdities. It’s just that the administration manages to break my brain by coming up with new nonsense, regularly.
For Trump, I think the reality doesn’t meaningfully exist. I’m not sure there’s even object permanence with him - reality outside his own head isn’t fully real as far as he’s concerned. He makes statements that end up either having good or bad consequences for him, and that’s all that’s relevant (so he tries to make statements that have good consequences).
For Sanders, the reality just doesn’t matter. After the nonsense of this interview (on top of everything else she’s said), I really don’t think she has a shame threshold. (Of if she does, it’s pretty extreme and involves situations that wouldn’t come up in her current position.)
And even if we look, specifically, at the issue of illegal narcotics coming over the Southern border, it’s still not any better for her argument - the drugs are being carried in American cars, driven right through checkpoints. Even if the wall could magically prevent anything from coming through/over/under it, it still wouldn’t stop those drugs. (That doesn’t even touch on the drugs illegally coming into the country from China… ) Her argument is layers and layers of absurdities.
Ah… so, I’m not clever enough then. Got it. Good to know…
The larger point that @gracchus was making, was that white men overwhelmingly benefit from the current system we live in. A few examples of shameless black men who do not have to face serious consequences does not disprove that. Not too long ago, a black man just imagined to be even slight shameless would be horribly murdered.
I’m reminded of something I was told sometime between 6th and 8th grades, that Communist countries enforced curfews by letting attack dogs loose at night. Only later on did it occur to me that it was an improbable task to round up all those dogs every morning. I assume that questioning this would receive a response along the lines of “that’s just how evil they are, they don’t round them up, they leave them out all day, too!”
