“Interesting” yesiree to see the Progressive get the short end of the dipstick
IN EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ELECTION SINCE 1824
Very interesting phenomenon, indeed.
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But hello Trump again. I know DNC favors Buttigieg, but this is ridiculous. Well, what you gonna do?
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Without comment:
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Buttigieg won in more rural counties, which receives a disproportionate number of SDEs. Because the electoral college is not just a bad idea on the national level.
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Wait, I thought the DNC favored Biden? Or was it Bloomberg?
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Yes - I understand the dynamic here, and Butti did close the gap on 2nd choice count, but after 2nd Choice Sandi was still ahead in votes, and that should not translate to less Delegates.
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I tend to see Wall Street Pete’s performance here as a one-off. He’s going to be called out on his McKinsey spin soon enough. Going forward, and absent successful DNC skullduggery on behalf of their various neoliberal-lite favourites, the progressives will eventually unite around either Sanders or Warren.
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We are seeing the disaster caucus that is Iowa unfold before our eyes, the mis-info is staggering. You have to really hunt for the truth, as always…
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Also looking more suspicious than ever that his campaign funded that wonky app. 
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It could still happen because delegates are based on precinct totals, not overall totals. I think the thing to do here is wait for the final, verified totals, rather than nail-bite over the trickling news.
In statistics we teach about a similar counterintuitive amalgamation phenomenon, Simpson’s Paradox. Math doesn’t always do what you want it to.
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No Wall-Street Pete for me…
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just curious, how would you propose to deal with splitting an odd number of delegates between two candidates when there is a tie? rock/paper/scissors? arm wrestling? cage match?
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That brings up the other point about Buttigieg’s performance possibly being anomalous in the larger primary process: the Iowa caucuses tend to favour the more conservative rural areas when it comes to the delegate count. This Electoral College type effect is yet another reason why the caucus system has to go.
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Trial by combat between the two candidates themselves, of course. Yet another dignified expression of Iowa’s pure democratic process for its defenders to cite.
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Wait. There is a belief somewhere that the DNC prefers Buttigieg?
The Buttigieg that the media had written off as being the next to fold, the person that gets no press coverage, the person who we were wondering if he would even get to go to the next debate? That Buttigieg?
Not Biden, the person at the center of the Impeachment hearings?
Not Warren, who was basically crowned the Next Hillary Clinton?
Although I will say that the national Democratic party probably really prefers that someone who is a Democrat would win their primary, as opposed to someone who announced the day after he lost the Democratic primary that he wasn’t a Democrat.
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I’m not against a coin toss, just a painfully clumsy one.
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As I understand it, even before the snafu, the new plan this year was to report the number of delegates for each candidate, and the upfront vote numbers, and even, I think some other number as well. And that was specifically because it was felt the prior system, where only the delegate counts were reported, was too decisive given that Iowa’s delegates don’t end up counting that much.
In other words, it was always the plan that the Iowa results would not constitute a clear Result on their own; rather, various campaigns would get to spin it different ways. Which… I guess kind of is more democratic, if you’re going to stick with this absurd primary system?
Anyway, Buttigieg beating Biden is a real diarrhea-squirt of a result. I’m sure the establishmapologists at the NYT & WaPo will be all, “oh look, a radical charismatic outsider won, just like Bernie supporters wanted! We’ve all come together, and now we just have to decide between elder statesman Biden and edgy youth option Mayor Pete!”
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They’ll take him as an acceptable alternative to the foundering Biden as far as economic policy goes. Him, Bloomberg, anyone, really, except an actual progressive.
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Let’s do this… it’s just about as good a method as what we actually do.
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