Ciao you strange unhinged dude. Sorry for the crappy looking post; the Infernal Device and I aren’t seeing eye-to-eye right now…
hey we have a thread for this…
hie thee to that thread with this news.
well CNN is the only place reporting this…
Snopes says there was a hoax back in May…
ETA the CNN story is a wee bit too much like the hoax news
ETA more as pointed out below this isn’t CNN, it is a fake site.
Thanks. Infernal Device is being a jerk. You, sir, are much more helpful.
Actually, the domain is “cnn-globalnews.com”. Which, according to whois, is registered to a “CNN Holdings” with an address in Singapor, and a gmail account. Cnn.com, on the other hand, is registered to Turner Broadcasting System in GA, USA.
Yeah, I wouldn’t put much faith in this.
Yeah not doubting it is a fake site, more doubting the story… a reporter jumping the gun and an editor too lazy/eager for a scoop to check.
EDIT parsing fail, it is a fake site reposting the hoax.
I’m just saying that I’m not seeing any story on the actual CNN site about the story. Just the fake site.
From a bit of googling it looks like there may be some places that were taken in, but…
Clint Eastwood is most assuredly still alive
But I saw his funeral at the end of (movie redacted). (OK, I was just going to blur the movie name, but I’ve decided knowing his death in it is too much of a spoiler for anyone who hasn’t yet seen it, and it is too good of a movie to spoil.)
Damn. I’m usually the one braking about this. I guess it fit my desirability bias pretty damn closely. Sigh.
Is this Reverse 20 Questions, Movie Edition?
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Honestly, I didn’t know how else to comment without spoiling it, and I couldn’t think of any other movies I’ve seen where he dies at the end. Wait…he dies in The Beguiled, right? So let’s use that. (Though the movie I was actually thinking of is better.)
Looks like I will need to give him another morning, golden and true.
Hollywood icon and Oscar winner Clint Eastwood has passed away at his Las Angeles, California home.
The site can’t even spell Los Angeles correctly once out of two attempts. I have doubts.
Ah ok, we’ve already diagnosed the fake site I see. Never mind.
I can’t remember if he dies at the end of Gran Torino, but if that’s the one you’re thinking of, ugh, please deliver me Goddess from white savior movies.
It isn’t a white savior movie, he’s the one who changes in the course of the movie, affected by his neighbors, transforming from a cartoon character into some semblance of a human being. If anything it is a Hmong-savior movie.
In the 80s I lived in a neighborhood in Minnesota with a heavy Hmong population, and many parts of the movie felt very familiar to me. No doubt it was more true to the Hmong-American experience of 30 years ago than to the time of the film, but I don’t see that as a fundamental issue for a movie.
I disagree, and it’s not hard to find A LOT of observers who also see that as a white savior movie, including the usual cartoonish portrayal of those who need to be saved, e.g.,
Despite the warm reception the film is receiving among many in the Hmong community, the depictions of the Hmong characters in “Gran Torino” are closely aligned with stereotypical representations of Asian Americans. Sue and Thao Lor, part of the family that live next door to Kowalski, and most of the members of the Hmong characters in the film, are depicted as people who are unable to care for and protect themselves and thus desperately need Kowalski’s intervention. There are no Hmong characters, male or female, who emerge to mobilize the community to fight back against the gang who terrorizes it. There are no Hmong characters, male or female, who attempt to take individual action to protect the community. Importantly, the gang that threatens the neighborhood is also Hmong. As such, the Hmong are represented in ways that are consistent with stereotypical images–Asian Americans are either passive, docile, and acquiescent, “model minorities,” as Chou and Feagin explain; or dangerous criminals who constitute, as Yen Le Espiritu writes, a “yellow peril.” Simply put, all the Hmong characters in the film are either weak and in need of protection, or they are depraved criminals. Espiritu argues that both stereotypes legitimize discrimination towards Asian Americans. By depicting the Hmong community only through these two stereotypical extremes, “Gran Torino” represents the Hmong as powerless, dependent, and in need of the patriarchal machismo of Kowalski’s white messiah to protect them from their criminal counterparts.
Anyone who was looking to a commercial Hollywood film for a documentary about the Hmong was doomed to disappointment. The movie was about the Eastwood character, and as in every major movie anything other than the main plot line was treated with some superficiality. In this case they are least used Hmong actors, generally let the actors help guide the filmmakers in the depictions, and - like the French and Americans who intevrened in Vietnam - Eastwood doesn’t save the community from anything. Little Big Man he’s not.
Not surprisingly, the movie has been well-studied by academics, and I suggest looking for the nuanced discussions in academic venues like the Hmong Studies Journal rather than on blogs which presuppose a viewpoint.