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I am just certain it will be a thorough and objective, scientifically based review. The conclusion will not be foreordained at all! (/s)
The MAGAts have their new messiah. FFSā¦
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and heās more of a fascist than the orange asshole.
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I understand where youāre coming from, but the orange asshole took minority children away from their parents and threw them into concentration camps along the border. I wonāt give him a pass as being somehow less than full fascist. Theyāre all monsters who need to be stopped.
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I wasnāt trying to give the orange asshole a pass, DeSantis just frightens me more, maybe because he seems like heās more competent.
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Thatās the difference. Il Douche was too stupid and self-centered to actually get anything done competently. MoRon is more able to execute evil than Il Douche ever was. That is terrifying.
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I donāt know if he actually is, or if heās just been able to get away with more shit, since itās FL? Itās hard to tell.
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Thatās a very reasonable point.
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I think if he decides to run for President, weāll get a much better sense of if heās a more competent bigot than Trump or notā¦ I donāt know if anyone can run on a Trumpian platform and win like Trump did. I donāt know that Trump can win again (I wouldnāt count it out, but he keeps losing and backing losers at this point).
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Thatās the difference but I donāt know what to make of it.
Trump energized the worst parts of the party by being Trump, incompetence and all. He won by shouting ābuild the wallā and ālock her upā which were completely inane. America is still suffering the effects of him not knowing how to win, rig, or admit defeat in an election. True, he wasnāt quite competent enough to pull it off the resulting coupā¦but I donāt think many competent men would have tried.
If Desantisās competence is scary, so was Trumpās lack thereof, like a mad bull in a preschool. Ultimately I think what makes fascists dangerous has nothing to do with whether they are smart.
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That is a concept that needs to go, that fascists are some brilliant tacticians, when in reality, they are just bullies who can appeal to enough people with their cruelty.
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Trump was more like a kind of traveling improv show than a traditional political movement 
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I think age is an important factor here too. Trump is just too old to be anything but a symbol now. DeSantis is young and energetic. If I were plotting a fascist takeover of the country, Iād get DeSantis on the ballot and keep Trump as an outsider symbol in the background, and maybe increase his legal troubles and other āvictimizationā in order to rally the masses around him while DeSantis actually executes the items on the agenda.
I donāt know about brilliant tacticians, but charisma is definitely a huge part of it. Hitler had a lot of charisma and was very good at energizing a crowd. So is Trump. His body count isnāt quite as high yet, but give him another 4 years, and weāll see what happens.
Well if youāre going to go with that line of argument the Trump supporters could accurately point out that heās 4 years younger than the current incumbent. Besides, Francisco Franco managed to cling to power until shortly before his death in his eighties so age alone doesnāt necessarily stop fascists.
Thatās not really how a cult of personality works. Itās non-transferrable by definition.
Plus, those two will never share power; ten pounds of narcissism in a five pound bagā¦
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I honestly hope that Biden doesnāt run again, for that reason and many others (his handling of COVID is very high on that list). Alas, it doesnāt seem like the Democrats have anyone else to offer.
Which does not address whether or not he can win over the hard-core Trumpers.
And where have we seen any republican actually standing up to Trump on a national level, though? You canāt just swap people in and out of a cult of personality, because itās built on adherence to an individual as ādear leaderāā¦
Which does not take smarts, and is really in the eye of the beholder. Some might find Trump charismatic, but I sure as shit do not.
Fascism is built on bullying, on a massive scale, backed by a take over of the media.
Yeah, letās fucking not.
jinx!
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Reagan and Biden have proven that America is OK with old men as leaders, even with visible and possibly age-related mental deficits
Trump is āoldā in the sense that heās not new anymore, though, and he canāt be shocking and scary again as a former POTUS and known loser
Part of what Trumpās supporters liked was that nobody knew what he would really do in office, and DeSantis sure has that going for him 
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Word is he has zero charisma. And terrible interpersonal skills.
Thatāll come out on the national stage. Hopefully weāll get a really divided Republican primary with several candidates and they all tear each other apart.
Go into the general divided, demoralized and angry at each other.
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