Looks like she already has it figured out
Not sure Biden is to blame here. An awful lot of the change in life expectancy devolves to the huge burden of covid and the piss poor response of the Trump administration. Granted, Biden seems to have taken a "protect corporations " attitude to covid precautions, but blaming his admin for this statistic is probably not accurate.
Those last two data points are 2020 and 2021. Are we blaming Biden for the entire pandemic now, even the parts in the Trump years?
Yes, he did not wave a magic wand and increase life expectancy by two years in the first months of his presidency in the middle of the worst part of the pandemic. What actions could he have taken that would have actually had that effect that quickly?
I think that a breakdown of that data by state would be quiteâŚtelling.
Especially when cross-referenced against which party is in charge of the legislature and governorâs office in each state.
Maybe not stating publicly that the pandemic is over? And stating publicly, repeatedly, that he didnât actually mean that?
Biden and Co. are devoted capitalists. Iâm sure theyâre okay with âa few moreâ deaths if downplaying the pandemic keeps the wheels of âthe economyâ rolling.
That data exists. Red states had significantly worse outcomes than blue.
Even prior to covid:
During covid
That was literally four months ago, in September 2022. How did that retroactively lower the life expectancy in 2020 and 2021?
I know you donât actually think it does, but posting that graph and blaming Biden is silly.
Do you really think his announcement of the pandemic being âoverâ had any affect on cases or deaths? Deaths havenât gone up since his announcement besides a tiny version of our seasonal variation. Both cases and deaths in December/January 2023 are a fraction of what they were January last year or January two years ago.
Yeah, but the general point still holds. The US is in maskless âWasnât that pandemic awful?â mode, thanks in no small part to the Biden Administration.
âThe US leftâ ?!?
That always makes me giggle.
We are few and far between here in AmericaâŚ
A graph that has doesnât make the point whatsoever, but it still âfeelsâ true because you get mad seeing unmasked people at grocery stores?
Frankly, deaths are back down to the point where theyâre no longer âexcess deaths,â theyâre the standard mortality weâd normally be getting at this time without a pandemic.
Yes, some deaths are still attributable to Covid, but raging a Biden for supposedly causing hundreds of thousands more deaths simply because you think he hasnât been consistently blaring the alarms loud enough all this time is silly.
Iâm guessing thatâs why she put it in this covid thread rather than the Biden thread.
ETA: oh, no, now that @anon15383236 has responded to elaborate more, there was a Biden component to this.
Personally, I think this is a situation where I would say he probably thinks heâs doing as much as he can within the political and cultural climate of the U.S., so soon after 4 years of Trump, because the MAGAts are still controlling much of the media and local politics. But is it enough? Heavens, no!
The post she posted is raging against Biden for not fixing this. âDefending Biden over vulnerable people.â Not a big Biden fan, but this is not his fault.
Yup, I kept reading!
Yeah, not a well made point by that Tweeter, and I reposted it too reflexively. Mea culpa.
It got a reaction from me because it aligns (albeit badly) with a rage that I feel, about the Biden Adminâs downplaying of the pandemic. Sure, their efforts seem better than Trumpâs, but I think their failures get downplayed too much by those on whatever left we have, just because Bidenâs supposedly on the left.
In this area, considering the previous admin, doing absolutely nothing is a huge step up. It is tragic that this is the bar to clear now, one earthworms do with ease, but it is where we are, apparently.
Sheâs so close to awareness, Iâd almost hate to explain it to her. AlmostâŚ
If he was really on the left, he would be taking action to help nurses, doctors, schoolteachers, caregivers, and wait staff who have soldiered through the pandemic and are burnt out. We need to double the number of nurses and docs we train, dramatically increase pay for public school teachers, and provide mandatory paid sick leave/vacation/schedule visibility to retail workers and wait staff. That would be ever so slightly left-ish.
