DHS announces 'Task Force to Protect American Monuments, Memorials, and Statues'

I think the bureau of prisons cell extraction teams are worse.

“These are the folks who are sent in to do cell extractions in prisons. They handle riots. They do shows of force to break up fights,” Michele Deitch said. “They are the strong arms of the prison system. That’s not what’s needed with these protests.”

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People, settle down. It only talks about American monuments. It says nothing about Confederate monuments. So they’re still fair game.

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So they will be extracting Trump from the White House when he loses?

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They’ll have to get into the “bunker.”

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Or keep the door locked on the outside.

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I read this a lot and it just doesn’t make sense to me. (Disclaimer: obviously these statues have to be removed from public spaces. I’m just saying they should go to a museum or sculpture park where they are presented in the appropriate context and rather than just being torn down they should be replaced with more appropriate statues to keep public spaces interesting and beautiful).

What does mass produced mean in the context of bronze statues? 10 or 20 pieces? There are 45 prints and 5 paintings of Edvard Munch’s The Scream. Does that make each individual one worthless?

And since you’re implying that mass produced might mean not artistic: even if this is true (and I don’t necessarily agree, as there are many beautiful mass produced objects) it doesn’t mean there isn’t an aesthetic value to them. I see the same argument a lot in the context of “Entstuckung” (de-stuccoing) of Victorian buildings on the European mainland after the war. In the spirit of new architectural simplicity and efficiency the stucco decorations on old buildings were often taken off, leaving drab soulless husks. The argument was often that those decorations were mass produced and chosen from a catalogue anyway. Still, which side of this building do you prefer?

Again: I’m not saying don’t remove these statues, just that the reason should be their impact on modern people’s lives, and we can still acknowledge that having statues around is a good thing, even “mass produced ones”.

 
 
 
 
 

Just not statues of these specific people.

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There is a very popular bronze statue called the Silent Sentinel.

Versions of the Silent Sentinel statue can be found from Amarillo, Texas, to Kennebunk, Maine. The Northern version features a Union soldier wearing a kepi and caped greatcoat, while his Southern counterpart typically wears the iconic slouch hat and bedroll strapped diagonally across his chest. Of the 360 Confederate Monuments acknowledge by the Sons of the Confederate Veterans in Virginia 100 of them are the Silent Sentinel version.

So instead of 10-50 pieces produced think 100s.

Here’s an interesting article that explains just how mass produced these things were for both sides.

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I think the context of that mass production plays a role.

Art prints or sculptors who make more than one copy certainly is mass produced art. But it is sold as such so more than one person can enjoy it.

But many of these statues are more or less made to order giant sized trophies. No one would confuse a bronzed ball player on a high end trophy as something that has valuable cultural meaning.

Though I suppose there is also the point that given enough time, even something like disposable clay bowls for “fast food” found in Pompeii become significant artifacts.

And SOME of the statues perhaps have some artistic merit.

So I’d agree that having some of them sequestered in museum collections is a prudent move. Though I would say not ALL of them are necessarily worthy of that.

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I live next door to a small fragment of a civil war battlefield-- the one percent where the confederates managed to convert their tactical defeat into a strategic victory by killing a high ranking union officer or two. Every year or so, some reenactors fire their cannon. It’s most valuable to me as green space, to the point that I was miffed that they were going to tear down the lovely trees and plant a corn field, and generally convert it to a “civil war battle site” complete with memorials to the union troops and the traitors. (There is a stone memorial, of considerable age, to the union generals, and a stone depicting where one of them “fell.”) They never got around to erecting the extra statuary , and considering the current climate, I doubt they ever will-- which is just as well.

How about 1, made out of something like what stress balls are made of.

Then people can line up and punch him in the face. Or kick him in the balls. Or vice-versa.One dollar = one punch/kick. All funds go to antiracism and educate initiatives.

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