The proposed ban of “Muslims,” however you define and verify that identity, would apply to immigrants and visitors alike. It’s pretty clearly a violation of the First Amendment.
Wasn’t the current legal theory that the Constitution and Amendments only apply to citizens and far within the borders of the country? Trump’s just trying to waltz through the loopholes that leaves…
As for how to define or prove it, he’s probably just following Jeb Bush’s lead on that:
Springtime for Trump’ster in the ole’ USA! Sing GOP’ers, SING!
All I’ve read about FDR that casts a bad light on him seems to have to do with his sex life and the New Deal. I think he was an astute enough politician to keep his mouth shut about any anti-white feelings he may’ve had.
I haven’t read all of his campaign speeches - geez, the guy ran four times, I don’t have the time to read 'em all! But, I can (hopefully) safely infer that for his first two terms, they were mostly, if not all, slanted towards national unity and economic recovery. The third-term speeches likely dealt with that same theme, along with the war in Europe. Those speeches for the fourth term were nearly all aimed at winning the Allied cause in World War II - I think that’s very safe to say.
And Eleanor and he may’ve not loved each other as we think a husband and wife should, but that was their business; he obviously respected her enough to allow her to campaign for civil rights. For him to bring race into a campaign would just’ve been idiotic
FDR was a politician to the bone - how else would have have won four elections for POTUS? He couldn’t offend black voters with racism, but at the same time, losing the Solid South was not an option.
This might help; http://millercenter.org/president/biography/fdroosevelt-the-american-franchise
And/or “what do I have to say to make the other republican candidates say something even remotely positive about Muslims”
I think you hit the nail on the head: “As if, in his own mind, he is already president.”
Trump is making me suspect we live in a surrealist dystopia.
I"m gonna run out of likes in this thread, I can already tell.
Imagine being Donald Trump in January 2017, and having President Hillary Clinton owing her election to you.
I’m just sayin’…
Mister44, I think I’m probably more in agreement with you politically than most of the folks around here, but Executive Order 9066 is a national shame – not a partisan one – with just a handful of exceptions (Ralph Carr, the Republican governor of Colorado, perhaps most of all), folks went along with it. I’d love to blame the Dems alone for that one (and I do blame the Dems), but with few exceptions, we’re all on the hook.
Ralph Carr [in one speech to a large and hostile audience (made up primarily of worried Colorado farmers), Carr said of the evacuees:]
“They are not going to take over the vegetable business of this state, and they are not going to take over the Arkansas Valley. But the Japanese are protected by the same Constitution that protects us. An American citizen of Japanese descent has the same rights as any other citizen… If you harm them, you must first harm me. I was brought up in small towns where I knew the shame and dishonor of race hatred. I grew to despise it because it threatened [pointing to various audience members] the happiness of you and you and you.”
Mussolini had better hair.
I’m hoping the entire persona is part of the joke, too.
Are their any grown ups in the Trump Organisation?
Their brand is inextricably linked to this PoS and surely their business partners must be thinking that it’s time to sever all links with Brand Trump. Given that he’s probably up to his eyeballs in corporate debt, it would give me a great deal of pleasure to hear one of his lenders had had enough and was demanding his removal from the board for future financing.
It’d also be interesting to know which companies are still doing business with Trump and get them to make some noise in the same way the media companies threw him aside earlier in his campaign.
One would think that at some point, some higher-up in the GOP would simply revoke Trump’s membership. Didn’t they do this, or at least threaten to do this, when David Duke ran for office? (At least one of the times?) Of course, that would mean Trump would run as an independent (or with a 3rd party) thereby siphoning votes from the GOP candidate. They can’t scrape the dogshit off the shoe because of the symbiotic relationship. The shoe would die, at least sooner than the dogshit would.
I think Trump has pledged to not run as independent. Hasn’t he said that he would support the Republican nomination because he doesn’t want to pull a Ralph Nader and split the right-wing vote?
If Trump didn’t represent mainstream Republican feelings, I think they would kick him out.
Yeah, no.
I thought he sort of did, then walked back on it.
How much trust would you place in a Trump pledge, anyway?
Seven. I put seven trusts in.
I can’t disagree there, actually. I’m not sure that FDR openly did it, though, which is why I’d disagree with the comparison. FDR also gave into the populist right (Father Couglin) and the New Deal indeed excluded many African Americans, too. So there is that.
I’d argue that Trump is more akin to Father Couglin than FDR. At this point Trump has no real political power. If he gets elected, the story changes.
Oh I am in 100% of agreement there. Like the Patriot Act, it got broad support across the nation.
The current talk of banning Muslims is as un-American as one can get.
