In Toronto, we put pet waste in the green bin, we make bio diesel from it.
I would never put dog poop in the black bins! Thats for Garbage only! And the raccoons get in there! Its bad enough with garbage everywhere, I would hate for there to be poop too!
And no, I’m not leaving poop to fester, I did specify up thread that its on garbage day only, and only if he bins are out, I’m not going onto anyones property!
But as for the next three points, this is also a thing I don’t understand… because I don’t hose or wash my bins… I never have. I mean yes, see above point re: raccoons, but on a regular basis… no. Everything is bagged, the bin itself isn’t dirty.
Considering we’re talking about poop that is already in a bag and I’m already carrying it, gonna go with “responsible dog owner” thanks.
Well, like I said, I’m fine with it IF the can hasn’t been emptied yet.
If the can HAS been emptied, deposits emplaced before I get around to hauling the cans back in will fester until next week’s pickup. That’s what I object to.
And I don’t usually wash my cans - not unless someone’s biodegradeable dog-poop bag pops open and smears fermented dog-shit on my can.
Then, and only then, I wash it.
But those are my objections. Other people may have others.
That aside, I’m unclear about why you seem to think that objections that you don’t understand aren’t valid and can therefore be ignored.
“I don’t understand” is a statement about your failure to understand, not about a failure in someone else’s reasoning.
Besides, does it matter whether you understand? Isn’t it enough to understand that they do object and, therefore, as a respectful neighbor, to carry your own dog’s shit back to your own house just like you do on all the other days?
How is this even worth arguing about? Why not just give the cranky neighbor a disdainful eye-roll and move along to a different can?
(Maybe even your own can, just in case other neighbors object as well, but haven’t made an issue of it. That’s what I’d so. Just seems like basic civility to me.)
I’m not arguing? I was asking questions, looking for insight from the people that do mind because I don’t mind, and thus on a fundamental level I just don’t understand. I’m not trying to change you mind, just looking for insight. Sorry if it came across any other way.
From the many times its come up on my neighbourhood FB group, it seems split pretty equally 50/50 people that have welcoming bins and those that are angrily opposed to the idea. I think we need stickers, so as to identify the bins of those of us who don’t mind sharing.
I don’t really get the “Don’t put your trash in my can.” thing.
In the 100F degree July heat I don’t need your dog’s poop festering in my trashcan - I have a toddler for that. And you may well double bag and neatly seal that poop, but someone at some time hasn’t. That means fresh dog shit all over the inside of my bin…so as a general rule no, your trash goes in your can.
When I lived downtown I’d have people drop half empty cans of beer in our recycling. It didn’t matter if they were literally on the street picking it up, because now there is beer all inside my recycling bin. Same goes with poop, at some point it is going to get on the inside of my can.
What I really don’t get is the blatant disregard for other people’s opinion. If I say don’t do X and you do it anyway - that’s what my 3 year old does, except I can’t give you a time out. Here I have a bag of shit filled diapers I can leave in your bin, they’ve been fermenting in our Ubbi for a few days so it should only take a few hours for the inside of your bin to smell like Satan’s asshole, but that’s cool right?
(It’s like people who eat in your car when you tell them no…last time you are riding in my car.)
My only issue is that some people don’t close the bags first, so when they throw them in someone’s bin, the poop can (and does) fall out, making a stink that has to be cleaned up.
I feel the same way about people who throw half-eaten open food containers in my recycling bin. (Yes, more than once. Fortunately not for a while now.)
If you’ve completely encased the poop so that it cannot get out and there’s a bin sitting outside waiting to be picked up, then sure: use the bin.
Don’t really feel I’m the one passing judgement here… but sure, I’ll play.
As I said upthread, it comes up a lot, and the people that oppose it do so almost violently, whereas the people don’t seem not to care at all, I’m just curious as to the source of the vitriol. If someone does something you don’t understand and demands you respect their wishes are you not curious as to their reasoning?
No…? And I’m not sure its a failure on my part when the people that object to poop in their bins so violently fail to explain why they don’t like it. You were the first person to try to explain, for that I thank you, prior to your comment we had a whole thread of objection with nary a reason why, I found that curious is all.
In general, I do, as I’ve explained upthread that I’m not leaving poop to fester, that I’m not going on peoples property, etc. I do comply. Its just so interesting to me that this subject inspires such a reaction, and it does every time its brought up, on every forum I’ve seen it brought up. Sociologically fascinating!
I got that from someone a couple generations ahead of me. I suspect that generation lost sweat to things more worth sweating over, and tended not to when it wasn’t.
That’s a good idea. In the Netherlands you can get stickers for your mailbox which specify which kinds (of two choices) of junk mail you wish to receive. Poop could work the same way.
Like I said upthread: if the garbage hasn’t been picked up yet, go ahead. But if the garbage has been picked up, that means it’s going back in my apartment with your dog’s decaying poop in it. I don’t have anywhere outside to leave my green bin during the week.
Oh I get that, I was specific, I would never leave poop in an empty bin, or go on anyones property! Despite all the hyperbole, I’m not actually an asshole!
In my neighborhood we have better things to worry about than bin boundaries. However, if that wasn’t the case, and someone came out and asked me not to use his bin, and wasn’t a jackass about it, I wouldn’t use the bin. I’d also wonder at his bin-fetishism.
If you view this as a problem you’re only going to solve it by getting your neighborhood to put in public trash bins or banning dogs. Just griping or making up rules in your head isn’t going to help you.
When I travel with my dog and so don’t have my own bin I use what’s there. If a neighborhood has provided convenient public bins I use those. If not, I use what I can, though I don’t use a bin that’s not on the street waiting to be emptied. I figure that it is better than leaving the poop on the grass.
The amount of hate in this thread directed at responsible pet owners who pick up after their dogs is staggering. When I was a lad the issue with dogs was that they usually ran free, and so would occasionally form packs and eat someone’s baby. I assume that if we finally solve the pet waste issues to everyone’s satisfaction people with too much time on their hands and rage in their hearts will start screaming about all the hair from dog owners who allow their pets to shed in public.
I imagine it falls pretty clearly along the lines of dog owners and those with no dogs. Everyone who I know that has a dog insists that their dog is either not perpetuating general dog problems or that they are responsible owners who clean up after/ properly train/control their dogs, etc.
But we have all seen feces in public places, or found it on our private property, both bagged and unbagged. The public school playgrounds near me have large signs prohibiting dogs, but every night and weekend I see people there with dogs. The public parks have signs requiring leashes, but people ignore those as well. I have seen some very irresponisible dog owner behavior in my own extended family.
None of this has anything to do with you personally. We don’t even live in the same country, and I believe you when you say that you are a responsible owner.
But there are obviously enough people out there being irresponsible that a sizeable number of people have had negative interactions with dogs and their owners who seem not to care about rules or other people’s desire to not interact with or clean up after dogs that they do not own. There’s always a subset of every group that ruins things for everyone.
People are often not at home or simply not looking out the front window when the poop gets deposited in the bin. Yes one can add a sign to the bin, but not everyone bothers to read signs.
Is it really “bin-fetishism” to expect the bin which stays inside my apartment six days a week not be filled with a strange dog’s (or dogs’) poop? Would you want your own dog’s poop sitting inside your home in a bin for a week?
Being a responsible dog owner means picking up your dog’s poop and also carrying it back your own home bin. If you’re not fulfilling both parts of the duty, you’re not being a responsible pet owner.
The “staggering amount of hate” you’re surprised to find directed at you is largely due to the entitled attitude and disrespect you’re showing towards people. As you’ve been repeatedly told, people have reasons why they don’t want your dog’s poop in their bins. When you ignore those reasons, you’re being a lazy, entitled, arrogant asshole.
When you go to someone’s house and he or she asks you to take off your shoes, you don’t insist, “but my shoes are clean!” You take off your shoes. If someone asks you not to smoke in his or her car, you don’t light up and say “I’ll blow it out the window!” You refrain from smoking. This is Civility & Common Courtesy 101.
You’re clearly aware people do not appreciate dog poop in their bins, so you have no reason to be surprised when people get angry at you for ignoring that social construct and then dismissing their reasons why they don’t want your dog’s poop in their bins. Whether you agree with or understand their reasons is irrelevant. When you disregard those reasons because you think they don’t apply to you because you’re special or different is the definition of disrespecful, entitled, arrogant, assholish behavior.
