Generic 2016 US Election Cycle Recycling Bin

How in the world did this get turned into a conspiracy to being with? Every national security department said it was Russia except a handful of individual bloggers, and government agencies suck at all agreeing on the same thing publicly.

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Nope. :wink: you’re intelligent, you’re just missing the innate short circuit here, psychologically speaking.

A smart person–i.e. someone possessing of significant logical faculties and/or considerable raw intellect–is not immune to emotional appeals and logical fallacies that appeal to their biases. Because of that, they can be very skilled at defending those biases and bigotries with all of their considerable intelligence. That is the short-circuit: they have rationalized an emotional appeal to be a logical conclusion, and, having done so, will defend it as either or both.

However, at the basis of that defense is the fact that they are letting themselves get deluded by the emotional appeal that caused them to accept it as a postulate in the first place, and, most importantly, are not examining that postulate critically in order to maintain intellectual integrity.

They very often refuse to even examine such postulates, citing them as self-evident, and, having accepted that postulate as such, they can and will bring often horrendous viewpoints that logically flow from that postulate.

Take Michael Shermer for example; he is a very intelligent person, who was at one point a born-again fundy Christian and a “climate skeptic”, but had enough internal integrity to be able to reject both climate change denialism and fundy Christianity, but is still far too enamored of Objectivist Libertarianism to be able to give it the same treatment and reject it as contrary to the ethics that he espouses.

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Thanks; I had been actively working on small mental exercises to make myself feel somewhat less depressed about the overwhelming immensity of this Fresh Hell… and you just neatly steamrollered over all my hard work, setting me back to square one.

Well done.

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Good a place as any for this, I guess?

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This is how I think the news media envisions Trump and Bannon’s relationship.

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I’ve personally taken a shine to this Farnsworth lately instead:

May it be the first of your next round of mental exercises. :slight_smile:

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That one is actually mine; I’ve used it here on BB before.

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Note to myself: buy more Kelloggs cereal.

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The problem is “smart” sometimes means “intelligent”/“quick-witted,” sometimes means “wise,” sometimes means “clever,” sometimes means “well educated,” etc, with various non-overlapping qualities it covers. It gets more tangled since there are a lot of kinds of intelligence, and intelligence doesn’t guarantee someone will be well educated, will hold empathetic/compassionate/humane values, will have a good sense of justice, will have moral integrity, will hold well informed views about the world, etc.

Henry Kissinger is a very smart man, very well educated, very clever, and has generally been quite well informed, but he’s also a total moral failure.

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DJT supporters tried calling for boycotts of Hamilton; yet it just set a record for selling out tickets after the Pence incident.

And yeah, I’m totally craving some Frosted Flakes right about now.

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What the fuck?

A faithless elector from WA voting for a different Republican to protest Trump??

And in fact, all 7 people that are going to do this are Electors that should be voting for Clinton? With friends like these…

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What? Shouldn’t they be voting for Hillary anyway?

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Can they do that within the current parameters of the electoral college?

Doesn’t the elector’s vote have to go to the next candidate with the most popular votes, if they have no faith in the selected candidate?

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I think they can do whatever they want. They could write in Mickey Mouse, if they wanted to.

I think in WA they get a $1000 fine for going against the vote. But that’s probably unconstitutional though, so they could fight it if they want.

I just think it’s daft to be faithless if you weren’t meant to be voting for Trump anyway. I suspect this is a bullshit move that lets GOP electors refuse to vote for Clinton more than anything. I bet they vote for Ted Cruz.

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Thanks, twitter. Post entirely the wrong tweet I wanted to link to.

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haven’t the veterans suffered enough

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Which does what, exactly?

If DJT didn’t win the popular vote, (which he didn’t) and the electoral college decides to vote against him, but not for Hilary, then where the fuck does that leave us?

They can’t try to vote in someone who didn’t even get the party’s nomination, so that NO citizens actually voted for the candidate they pick in the general election.

This is so retarded, I can’t even…

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People coming up with idiotic lunacy like “I’m going to protest Trump by not casting my vote for Clinton” is why we’re in this hideous mess to begin with.

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