GOP anti-choice congressman who slept with patients and paid for their abortions says "God has forgiven me"

I want to see the original stone tablet his forgiveness was carved on.

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The interesting thing is that, while they clearly believe it to be of signalling value, they don’t seem too worried about doctrinal details.

Openly asserting that you have already been forgiven and have knowledge of this fact is anywhere from deeply tacky to blatantly heretical depending on your preferred flavor of Christianity. People have gotten the stake for much subtler disagreements on the details of how and when salvation is distributed.

Given the popularity of treating Christianity(and religion in general: you don’t get the phrase ‘judeo-christian values’ without a downright Procrustean willingness to elide doctrinal distinctions) as more of a loose coalition against homos and uppity women rather than an actual set of beliefs I suppose I shouldn’t be too surprised; but it’s still pretty novel, on a historical scale, for something so blatant to be just lumped in with a weaksauce apology as though it’s a sympathetic commonplace; not part of some splinter sect’s radical manifesto.

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Okay - I’m willing to consider this. If you can produce him as a character witness.

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Time to bring back good old public stoning’s.

What? Frankly, I’m even surprised by the 20% estimation. I must be blissfully lost in my godless bubble of confirmation bias. Maybe we Oregonians (populated areas) are all hateful, educated devils? I have exactly one friend among roughly 500 social media types that might be offended if I poke fun at Jebus and his stooges.

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The God whom he thinks forgives him also expects him to care for the poor and vulnerable (Matthew Chapter 25, vs 31 - 46). His alignment with the GOP makes is doubtful that he is doing much to care for those who are poor.

It reminds me of Gandhi’s statement that he would have become a Christian if it weren’t for the “Christians”.

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What Uncle Fester lacked for in looks he made up for in charm.

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Um. I can really only speak for one atheist, and I don’t profess because this atheist does not really have anything to profess about, but this seems a bit weird. I do not believe in ‘No God’. It’s not that I actually believe in God a teeny bit but am too proud to admit it. I don’t have the belief at all. All I see in the universe around me is enough in itself. This does not feel like a waggon you can fall off.

However, if American Christianity is weird enough to admit this charmer, maybe American Atheism is weird too.

I was surprised with “my” 10% discovery (that based on clear admissions of atheism). The higher percentages from @LDoBe made more sense to me give my own environment, it also being lousy with “educated devils”. :smiling_imp:

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Trite to say it, but beliefs, opinions, and attitudes aren’t binary; I’d say that one could be “all in” in one area or another… or any place in between. That’s my takeaway from conversations with relatives and friends. Sometimes, it seemed to me that the strength of beliefs depended on particular situations and moods. I’m firmly in the atheist camp, but – again, from my own experience – I can understand the sporadic appearance of ‘confusion’ and inconsistency re atheist versus religious. People!

oh. you mean this one? “thou shalt commit adultery”

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I always imagined that sex with Fester would be downright electric.

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