That’s a kind of dangerous assumption. I mean, a lot of folks went to jail for the Beer Hall Putsch too but it wasn’t the end of that movement. Never ever get complacent with these people.
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I love you.
I was thinking, “I’d love for him to end up like Real Elvis in Bubba-Ho-Tep.”
My BF likes the idea of Siberia, and I can’t object to that.
All along I’ve favored the idea of him, his family, and their minions winding up on one or more of those phony, environmentally disastrous, never-to-be-finished, sinking, human-made islands off dubai.
After all, they have sooooooooo much in common.
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Changed.
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Well, sure! If I were chief of police, or head of security, or some other leader in charge of putting bodies in front of potential insurrectionists, I wouldn’t take any chances. Absolutely make sure that there’s a massive show of force every time TFG calls for his followers to “fight”.
But I’m not any of those, and I have no authority or desire to attain authority. So, when I say “I don’t think there will be another attack like Jan 6”, you can take that with all the gravitas that my station in life demands: Absolutely none.
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Well, the folks who would have to deal with the logistical (etc.) headache of jailing a former president don’t want to do it. Which I guess means they really need to fill those positions from the ample supply of volunteers…
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Why do people keep suggesting this is a difficult task?
Expensive on the cost per prisoner maybe. But, why difficult?
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There are a lot of issues, some of which are around the logistics of actually imprisoning a former president, and others around real/perceived consequences to the system should it happen. I think a big one is that no one wants to be the first to do it (because of some notion, in part, that it would indicate the US is/turn the US into some third-world non-democratic country). There’s generally a big taboo around (officially) examining the crimes of former administrations, much less actually prosecuting the criminals in them. It’s generally a can of worms everyone’s reluctant to open because that’s “not how we do things here.”
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Laws that apply to everyone is a sign of an excellent country. Investigating is the mature, responsible thing to do!
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Yeah, you’d think people would be far more worried about the impact of a total lack of accountability for those in power committing crimes, but…
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Or that he would board a commercial flight
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Yeah, that happened when the system didn’t stop the election of someone clearly not qualified and bent on destroying the system. If anything, imprisoning him after the fact would be a necessary correction.
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This one seems like it’s really easy. It’s just spending money. There’s nothing really hard about it. Sure, the cost per prisoner ratio is way off the charts, but that doesn’t make it hard.
Pick a location, add the building, staff it, surround it with a tall fence or build that wall around it. Done.
If they want to start from scratch, a couple of prefab homes put on federal land (probably a military base), run some power, water, and septic to it. Surrounded by a tall fence. Staff it with to many people.
If they want to “go easy” on it, 9 foot fence topped with razor wire installed surrounding Mara Lago and disconnect the phone lines. Staff it with to many people again. They can call it “House Arrest”.
This one I understand, it’s a policy question, a social dynamic question, a culture question, and society impact question. Lots of thoughts from different people about if it is a good idea or not. But, I don’t think most people are talking about this when they say it’s hard. There’s always more focus on the first, the logistics.
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There is a world of difference (notionally, anyway) between crimes of policy, such as the Gulf War, Viet Nam, etc, etc, etc. and crimes for personal enrichment and benefit, which is what we are seeing here. Basically, the former are “too big to prosecute,” while the latter are not. Nixon was an example of the latter, as is Trump. Bush and co. are more of the former. Just as bad, if not worse, but so much less likely to land in court.
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Pick the right location, and those modifications are trivial.
Say, Gitmo.
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I’d be worried about his cultists trying to break him out. Put him on a plane (one without windows, ideally) and fly him around for a couple hours until he has no idea where he is. Then put him in a limo (with the divider up and the doors and windows locked so he can’t see out) and drive him to wherever he’s going to spend his sentence.
Let him communicate with the public but only over videoconference from a room without windows. Give him a “dumb terminal” phone that lets him post to a ChatGPT-powered mockup of Truth Social and nothing else. [It may not pass the Turing test, but I’d bet it comes close enough to pass the Trump test by fooling him into thinking it’s a real MAGA supporter.] Then let him rot for the duration of his sentence.
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Waging an ill-advised war abroad is also usually not technically illegal under U.S. law. A President may break laws in the process of waging that war, but for the most part it’s not something the courts were designed to deal with.
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Or, as some say, it’s usually only a sith that deals in absolutes.
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The inherent irony of that line always did amuse me.
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Like Frankie Pentangeli!
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