I have that t-shirt. Civic pride.
Obligs:
If they re-ran the analysis to include only days when the Eagles/Phillies/Sixers/Flyers won or lost a game, I’m sure those numbers would improve!
Cleveland?
Really?
We’re big on gluttony, sloth, corruption and violence, Cleveland is the whole package. We’re rarely the number 1 in these things, but frequently high in the rankings in most of them.Based on the metrics they used we are 7th in violent crime (homicide rate higher than Chicago so that fits) and 17th in theft. They have us number 8 in excesses, which is in keeping with our extraordinarily high DUI fatality rate, high debt and how bad the opiate crisis hit Ohio. We’re low on greed, lust, and vanity. We’re also high in their laziness rank, which fits our low exercise, but high high school dropout rate.
But really, methodology aside this captures a lot of the downsides ofCleveland in a nice little bow. Most of the bad things are the problems you frequently see associated with high levels of poverty and depending on the list Cleveland is usually one of the handful of poorest cities in the country. The jokes we make about the list being a good night out are the underappreciated upsides of Cleveland. The city has a vastly underrated food and drink scene, for example.
How is San Francisco so far down the list? I mean, we have Elon Freaking Musk here now, and he’s basically “excess, anger, hatred, jealousy, greed, lust, and vanity” in human form.
Because it is a low crime city, with high educational attainment and a generally healthy populace. This isn’t so much a list of fun sins.
The jokes we make about the list being a good night out are the underappreciated upsides of Cleveland. The city has a vastly underrated food and drink scene, for example.
I’ll admit I like making jokes about Cleveland, but I’ve also heard good things about the city for a while now.
A friend of mine has this “Vacation in Cleveland-- You’ll Love It!” coffee mug that he jokes about, but then we’re like “maybe we should.”
Although I am partial to sloth too, and there we’re putting in a very poor showing indeed.
It’s quite obvious you’re working far too hard on your sloth!
You make your own fun in Iowa.
[ISU class of '95.]
I saw St. Louis at #2 and it reminded me of something I heard on NPR the day a couple of days ago that I’ve been haunted by ever since: the entire state of Missouri has “open carry” for any handgun, “long gun” (not a gun person, but my mind reels), or any weapon…with no age limit.
You can’t “conceal carry.” If you’re gonna go to the grocery store, post office (but not in a Church or School, or school “grounds”), real estate agency, undertaker’s office, etc: ya better be showin’ your AR-15 or whatever the fuck you think you need to feel “safe.”
Also, you can’t display your assault rifle or bayonet, scimitar or Tommy Gun, Dirty Harry pistol splatter-special, blackjack, brass knucks, or Bowie Knife in an “angry or threatening manner.” I’d like to see the lawyers argue that fine point, of which I confess I’m hopelessly naive, thinking that the very fact that citizens own assault rifles ANYWHERE “feels threatening” to me.
Holy IDIOCY, Batman!
I confess I never could fully understand the idea of Sloth as a sin. It’s been firmly ensconced in my personal value system since as long as I could remember.
Stop knockin’ Sloth! (Not that I’m gonna get off the couch and do anything about it if you do, though. Hey: let’s face it, I’m…yea…whatever.)
St Louis’ ranking must be due to violent crimes & theft. StL sure doesn’t offer much in the way of fun vices.
Clearly this list is inaccurate. Sand Hill road goes through Palo Alto, Menlo Park and Woodside.
None of them are listed
Several of the coolest people I know are from Cleveland (and none of them live there now)
I confess I never could fully understand the idea of Sloth as a sin.
The version I’ve heard that makes sense is sloth becomes a sin when it overwhelms caring about others. For instance in Dante’s Inferno it is paired with wrath, and the explanation I remember is that both are misuses of anger. Wrath is when you get angry and you shouldn’t…but then there are things out there like cruely and injustice that should make you angry, and sloth is when you don’t.
So…not voting (for example) might be a sin of Sloth
The metric is also weird that it mixes crime (a negative regardless of perspective) with entertainments such as bars, strip clubs, and other “adult” entertainments (only a negative if you see it that way)
The concept of “sin” is also weird that it mixes crime (a negative regardless of perspective) with entertainments such as bars, strip clubs, and other “adult” entertainments (only a negative if you see it that way)
I think we can go bigger on this. See edit above
East St Louis does, though!
I would think that Palm Beach would be pretty high on the list due to a certain resident who moved there after getting kicked out of DC.