If the mango monster is impeached - and quite possibly even if he isn’t - what on earth makes you think there will be an election in 2020?
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And they’re exactly as bad as each other and there’d be no difference if she was in office and in a similar vein breathing and decomposing are exactly as good as each other because they’re both biological activity.
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I despise the man and his cronies, but the more I think about it, I don’t think I want him impeached. My fervent hope is to regain the house and senate in 2020 and put him in a box until his term is over, and then prosecute the HELL out of him, his family, his cronies, and any other complicit rethuglicans we can get. I think the first thing Pence will do is go on a Pardon party. No immunity, no pardon.
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That’s an interesting video. Other than the twitter stuff the people with complaints were unhappy about his failure to seriously address problems that were personal to them - mostly drug addiction and healthcare. The old guy who gave trump an A+ was a delusional “war on christians” fool who is probably hopeless, but the others at least were starting to recognize policy failures. Beating the drum of policy failures is what finally took down Berlusconi. It may be our best hope for peeling enough people away from Don the Con’s base too.
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The GOP base are only 25% of the country. You don’t need or want to convert them; you outnumber them.
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It doesn’t matter how much of the country they are, all that matters is how much of the voters they are.
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the GOP party will get split into two new parties, neither of which will be able to go up against a unified democratic party.
That’s supposing there is a unified democratic party.
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At the moment? They’re 100% of the significant voters. And if you convince a portion of the party to defect, they’ll still be 100% of the significant voters.
The only votes that count in the red states are those within the GOP.
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But the first thing that Pence would do would be to nominate a new VP, probably from outside that line, like how Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller were. That person would face a rocky road through Congress, but in a crisis, and if Pence were under a cloud himself, they’d want that seat filled fast.
Given how the democrat leadership basically did everything in their power to screw over any opposition while laying out a gilded path to Hillary? I’m not very ‘unified’ feeling towards them.
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I need brain bleach as of two minutes before i saw that.
The idea of anything being romantically attracted to either of those two gives my stomach flips. seeing a Muppet making out with a Monster makes my stomach demand immediate ejection of all contents.
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-fify (and apparently I need at least 9 characters to post, so here’s a whole shit load more)
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Indeed, if a heterosexual sex scandal was enough to put Republican voters off Trump then he never would have made it near the nomination in the first place, much less won the general election after the “grab 'em by the pussy” tape. (And that was a sexual assault scandal.)
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Everyone’s acting like all of these politicians are maneuvering for some greater good, be it power for their respective parties or hopefully, with fingers crossed, what’s best for the country.
How about, “they’re all ridiculously self serving shits who are gunning for personal power (over what’s good for the country or even their own party). And they all think they’re more clever than everyone else. So… they’ll improvise and go with whatever seems to serve them best at the moment. Whatever will get them re-elected or will fill their own wallet, party and country be damned.”
Impeachment will happen only if it gets the republican majority re-elected, or gets them nice slush funds in some overseas account.
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That only matters if non-GOP voters have a say. Nothing in the GOP’s recent behaviour suggests that is true.
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25th Amendment.
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But in this scenario, we’re postulating a Democrat-controlled Congress. Why would they rush to confirm a Republican nominee for VP when, if they held tight and got Pence impeached with the VP slot still empty, their Speaker would automatically succeed to the Presidency?
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What matters to about 90% of the people is not who you are or what you have done, but what tribe you belong to and how well you represent the prejudices (‘values’) of that tribe. Trump is a perfect representative of the American White Man and those others who worship him. The Republican elites may not like him, but they know better than to try to depose him. So you can forget about impeachment.
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If you are going to give politicians a choice between a difficult process now or a difficult process later, they are going to choose later.
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Hmm, that’s an interesting thought. I don’t think it’s likely, though; nor would it be wise. The dems need to let this play out fully without any appearance of political meddling or character assassination. Fortunately, Trump seems to be suicidal in this regard. Let him fall on his sword without any assistance. Otherwise those center-leaning conservatives will never feel they can trust or support someone from anywhere near the other end of the spectrum.
