He must have been replying like greased lightening then. Such impassioned typing.
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Mod note: @Mac @Macdaddy-You keep repeating yourself. Youāve made your point. No reason to keep saying the same talking points over and over.
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How do all the rape and murder threats help bring about more transparency in game journalism?
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I went to the Intel site to convey my decision to avoid Intel products in my personal gaming life and in the business I run because of their poor CSR. Problem is the CSR response form is coming back with a 404. Is this because it has been deluged with triumphant gaters or with extremely dissapointed business owners and professionals (oh and gamers)? Only way to fight back against this gater campaign is to make clear how much money there is in our camp, and how much business any company will lose if they give in to misogynist conspiracy theorists.
Asks people to think critically and not be sheep. Posts breitbart as credible source.
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Kiddo, you are seriously delusional about the āgamers being their main buyersā. Intel doesnāt exist only because of the gamers, you know?
The CPUs and mainboards bought by gamers are a drop in the ocean of Intelās income, their primary business is selling chips (and not only CPUs!) to electronics manufacturers. Those chips tend to end up everything from your fridge to your PC. Even the majority of those CPUs goes to office PCs and servers.
The fact that their pulled their ads is, IMHO, a typical cover your ass reaction of some PR/marketing drone who got inundated by the sockpuppet dronesā e-mails, knew nothing about the scandal and simply wanted to remove the name of Intel from any possible controversy. Except they have achieved exactly the opposite now.
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This is just off the cuff, but here is a draft of what Iām going to write to intel:
Youāve recently decided to pull advertising from the website Gamasutra after receiving complaints about their content related to the #GamerGate hashtag. I am not sure if you are aware that his hashtag is entangled with an manās attempts to publicly shame and harass his ex-girlfriend, or if it is often used as a thin veil over misogynistic attacks. The hashtag is used by people who hound people out of their homes with rape and death threats in order to silence them. A targeted campaign against advertising is another way they are trying to make sure no one speaks out against hateful attacks on women.
Every defense of #GamerGate on a forum or on twitter is characterized by sock puppet accounts. There is a very good chance that the large volume of complaints you got is not representative of the number of people who are actually upset about this issue. Iād also note that the people who are complaining to you are the same people who spend hours complaining in game forums about games they continue to play and pay for - they do not put their money where their mouths are.
Between my own gaming habits and my family I buy a new computer approximately once a year. If you decide to continue supporting #GamerGate and thereby supporting hostility to women in gaming culture, I will be sure that my next purchase does not have āIntel inside.ā
Iām tired of these people trying to control the public sphere through intimidation.
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Did you read the leaks from the GameJournoPros mailing list? Kyle Orland - senior gaming editor at Ars Technica, has this to say about the Zoe Quinn situation
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Since when does a journalist need an excuses to talk positively about Quinn? Sounds like digging heels in to me.
I for one support collectively giving the finger to most proponents of this āgamergateā.
Especially itās exceptionally untalented Astroturf Division.
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This is hilarious. The vast majority of us had never heard of Quinn before this whole thing happened. If I were a real conspiracy theorist I would say that she orchestrated #GamerGate herself to boost her career. Iām actually really interested in checking out games sheās made because I want to know what got all these angry men to turn their attention her way. Itās probably something good.
āI donāt want to in essence reward the jerks doing this by giving their āissueā any attention at all.ā is not evidence of digging in heels, itās evidence that associating yourself with crazy jerks who threaten people doesnāt make you come across well.
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Wait whaā¦ ? Boycotting is intimidation? Be careful using words like that, itās a slippery slope. Last I checked its considered āconsumer activismā. Wikipedia describes it as part of āmoral purchasingā. Boycotts are voluntary and nonviolent. Gandhi encouraged boycotting of British goodsā¦ yeah what an intimidator.
Whether you like it or not, #GGs are part of the āpublic sphereā, and they have a voice, and they intend to use it. Thank god we live in a country where we have these rights ā otherwise the āvocal majorityā would get to impose itās views on everyone else ā all those dissenting āintimidatorsā. Sheesh. Youāve been drinking your own cool-aid too long.
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Buddy, intimidation - to deter or compel by or as if by threats.
Boycotts count as threats, not all language is determined by the breathless FOX commentators grimly hoping for another school massacre.
Do you even pedant, bro?
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Wow - not reading the article but Iāll do a āgamersgateā thing and respond just to the headline - the breitbrat article is right - feminists are tearing the game industry apart.
Itās exposing the rotten, mean, and condescending bits and showing them for what they are - and the most awesome thing about it - is that the developers, the majority of the gamers, and the rest of the industry are finding out they donāt really want those people in their hobby anymore. Because they are toxic.
I for one wonāt be sad to see them go - considering Iāve been a āgamerā from the point āpongā came out - I can definitely say good riddance.
edit I suppose itās confusing (they was clearly defined in my head why you people were having issues is clearly your fault) they would be the douche-bags that are hell bent on being crying manbabies.
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Maybe it stands for transparency in game journalism to those using the hashtag, but it does not stand for transparency in journalism to those on the outside.
Kudos to Zoe Quinn! This is her Michael Brown moment!
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Thatās odd, given that this is a gamergate-article. Arenāt you aware of what started the whole controversy?
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Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance.
No one is fooled. Please boycott Intel. Please boycott all the chips.
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No man. Shut up.
You cannot side with people who harassed people out of their homes, colluded to use minorities to discredit the other side (did I mention the tea party already) and all these things you already know (weāve all seen the post, 4chan is no longer that obscure), and say youāve been bullied.
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Ha. If I hadnāt been playing tic-tac-toe on a conference room sized IBM while you piddled your pong I could maybe attribute your peevishness to your advanced age.
I guess it is something else. What I donāt understand is why you donāt understand how you are one-step-back, doomed to recede behind the two-steps-forward that is represented by games becoming mainstream enough to shed the man-child image for most of us.
Srsly, bro, how does it feel to be on the wrong side of history?
edit- Or, if I totally failed to parse your post, you could reply with equal snark condemning my reading comprehension failure because we actually agree.
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Damn it. This pole is only 9ft long. Iām not touching this one.
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I think the āthose peopleā he was referring to were the toxic assholes rather than the feminists. (I read it the same way as you at first, but rethought. I mean, I hope Iām right.)
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