Interesting shirt from this weekend's Trump rally

[orenwolf]

@anon61833566hunter

I have to admit, I used the urinals at a bar/grille where the glass was a one way mirror. It was disconcerting as all hell trying to pee while there was quite literally a couple eating buffalo wings and drinking beer right in front of me.

Reminded me of this:

http://incrediblethings.com/art-design/the-public-bathroom-made-of-1-way-mirrors/

[anon61833566]

I was so uncomfortable. Realized that day public bathroom acts is not a fetish of mine.

[anon59592690]

Doubt it - I don’t think he’s the type to think anyone can change. It might be fun to see if it causes his head to explode though.

[nixiebunny]

@davide405

To be honest, I’m a little annoyed at that myself, but for a different reason:

At some point, the number of “scientifically recognized” genders becomes so large that it gets into the same sort problem that Taxonomists have: it becomes a philosophical divide between “splitters” and “lumpers.” It becomes more a question of the sorting preferences of the observer than on the actual data.

Why not just call it a multi-dimensional continuum and acknowledge that trying to apply any arbitrary number of labels to human sexuality does the labelee a disservice

I have been referring to the “twelve-dimensional hypercube of sexuality” for a few years now. It seems more sensible.

[someguy]

@davide405

and acknowledge that trying to apply any arbitrary number of labels to human sexuality does the labelee a disservice

FTFY
 

[KathyPartdeux]

Nods - I meant it would change his tune about B/C’s being the arbiter - not that B/C - the original one that doesn’t exist anymore & that no on could get a copy of their own anyways.

[someguy]

I assume he is protesting the current state of birth certificates.

[myke]

For more than 25 years, the Democratic Party has been bought and sold to the highest bidder. The only difference I can see between them and Trump is that one of them is a little more obviously corrupt than the other. They both do anything for money.

Obama’s “I stood up to the financial industry” cough, apparently that means picking Goldman Sachs execs to police themselves and then getting paid $400,000 an hour by them now in bribes, oh I mean out of respect because he was so tough on them! .

While one lies badly and practices nepotism without any repercussions, the only real difference seems to be how fast you want our government to sell us out to the highest bidder. You can have the slow boil Democratic Party or the fast boil conman. Either way, we’re the frogs that have already been sold.

[wysinwyg]

@anon61833566hunter

Do you really think that #45 supporter would acknowledge that kind of logic?

Fair point.

@incarnedine_v

Democratic votes however fell almost double since Obama was elected, suggesting that maybe it’s not that Trump was popular but that Hillery was really unpopular within her own party.

1. I’m not arguing about Trump’s election in particular. Trump’s popularity didn’t lose the dems the house and senate.
2. Yes, I agree that Democrats are failing by backing wishy washy centrist neoliberals who don’t stand for anything but power over others. We should stop doing that. Tea party for Democrats seems like a pretty good way to do that.

[incarnedine_v]

@wysinwyg

Yes, I agree that Democrats are failing by backing wishy washy centrist neoliberals who don’t stand for anything but power over others. We should stop doing that. Tea party for Democrats seems like a pretty good way to do that.

I’m not sure that works either, Obama for all his rhetoric had a very centrist platform for example.
The core of the Democratic party in general seems to be very centrist and going far left may mobilize people to turn Republican.

And I don’t think Clinton lost because of her politics, it’s got more to do with the fact that she looks like an insufferable sociopath to most people.

[jerwin]

@LearnedCoward

*Is this still the 2016 primary season?

My cousin still posts shit about Hillary Clinton and neo-somethingism. There are a smattering of small contests in which this dynamic can be applied.

Bernie Sanders Defends Campaigning For Anti-Abortion Rights Democrat

[davide405]

@anon61833566hunter

They have no idea what a vulva is or looks like.

After sundown, lights out, missionary position, under the blankets, only for making babies, keep it quick and try not to enjoy it too much.

Wash up and pray afterwards for forgiveness.

/s

[marence]

@faithnomore

It’s just on the planning board

Local politics are one place people can make a difference, even if it’s a planning board, school board, or simply being that thorn in the side of city council because you show up and pay attention and call them on any bullshit.
Thanks you for your service, @faithnomore. (and also for recycling, which I’ve been advocating since the first Earth Day.)

[emo_pinata]

[quote=“wysinwyg, post:69, topic:100162”]
Trump’s popularity didn’t lose the dems the house and senate.
[/quote]Uh… it did exactly that. Trump’s popularity is one of the only reasons the Democrats don’t have the majority right now.

Governor is the race that wasn’t tied to Trump’s popularity.

[LearnedCoward]

@incarnedine_v

I’m not sure that works either, Obama for all his rhetoric had a very centrist platform for example.
The core of the Democratic party in general seems to be very centrist and going far left may mobilize people to turn Republican.

You keep using that word, “centrist”…

The Left Wing goes all the way left. Like, Marxists, Communists, Libertarian Socialists, anarchists, etc. Hell, even Socialists are considered moonbat lefty in US politics. Even Social Democrats like Bernie Sanders would be considered “out there” but not too “out there” to be popular. Meanwhile, in Europe, Social Democracy is a centrist position.

Obama and Hillary Clinton are not centrists. In the grand scheme of things, they can be charitably considered center-right.

@incarnedine_v

And I don’t think Clinton lost because of her politics, it’s got more to do with the fact that she looks like an insufferable sociopath to most people.

I tend to agree.

As someone who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 but did not vote for Barack Obama in 2012, I still think Clinton was the worse candidate, even though they were politically largely identical. I didn’t think Clinton cared about the constituents or even particularly wanted my vote, but I voted for her anyway because WTF Trump.

[LearnedCoward]

So then, is anyone who is unhappy with the current state of the Democratic Party and neoliberalism a Bernie Bro, or just anyone who’s still shitposting about Hillary Clinton far after she stopped being relevant? Because if it’s the latter, they should move on. If it’s the former, you should move on.

I don’t know much about the mayoral contest in Omaha, but what is Bernie Sanders supposed to say about it? This is the main election, not the primaries, and there’s only one Democrat and one Republican to choose from. So what should he say instead? Stay home? Vote third party* write someone in? Besides, what about party unity, or “the perfect is the enemy of the good”, or any of the other weak-ass aphorisms that have been tossed our way this past presidential election?

*not possible this election

[wysinwyg]

@incarnedine_v

I’m not sure that works either, Obama for all his rhetoric had a very centrist platform for example.

Yeah, that’s not a good thing. That’s like using the Sears name to squeeze a little extra money out of gullible old-timers while the company circles the drain. Obama gave liberals and leftists the impression they had an ally, and then he turned out to be a big disappointment. You think that’s a good way to drum up enthusiasm?

It’s not. That’s a way to ensure that the Democrats remain irrelevant.

@incarnedine_v

The core of the Democratic party in general seems to be very centrist and going far left may mobilize people to turn Republican.

What is this based on? Who are these centrist Democrats who’d rather vote Tea Party than someone with actual left credentials and policies? Evidence please.

While we’re at it, some evidence that people actually vote based on platforms and policies in the first place? I thought it was well understood that people tend to vote based on personality and who can articulate a more compelling vision of the future. Obama won not because of his platform, but because his messaging made it seem like he could make changes to the government, that he had a vision as to how to improve things. The fact that he mostly didn’t is part of the Democratic party’s current electoral problems.

Hillary Clinton ran on policies and platforms. They were solid. No one cared. Trump ran on personality and a vision of how to change the government that appealed to many people. He won. That’s how Obama won as well. Catching on yet?

@incarnedine_v

And I don’t think Clinton lost because of her politics, it’s got more to do with the fact that she looks like an insufferable sociopath to most people.

The fact that she’s a cynical opportunist is very relevant to any interpretation of her politics. She doesn’t have a politics besides being an insufferable sociopath. That the Democratic party would nominate such a person is at the heart of the problem I’m trying to describe and you’re trying to deny.

[wysinwyg]

Then argue with @incarnedine_v, who said that Trump wasn’t even popular

[faithnomore]

Thanks

[emo_pinata]

Trump isn’t popular, he’s about as popular among active voters as not voting is among eligible voters - which is also about as popular as the Democrats. The wins on this election were extremely narrow on one of the highest turnouts we have seen in two generations.