The problem with Current Affairs (aka Nathan Robinson), Jacobin, The Intercept, Krystal Ball, Katie Halper, and others as sources on this is that they have expended so much energy over the last few months in admittedly partisan heated attacks on Biden that it is impossible to distinguish when they are being impartial analysts from when they are being advocates. This makes accusations of others of doing the same (in the other direction) a little suspect, especially when it involves portraying people like Katha Pollitt as fake feminists. Pollitt in particular has a great deal of well-earned credibility.
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To answer my own question, and after thinking about it, the reason why Tara Reade is speaking up now and not when Joe Biden was running for vice-president could be because the Me Too Movement, blooming on 2017, finally lend ears and wide support to women that had been abused sexually, especially by those in a position of power. Before than time, she may have felt that her allegations may have been disbelieved, ridiculed, and dismissed.
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NYT, so late, breaking my heart by making trump right about the press.
Here you go, for the Kavanaugh style apologists that want an oath from the accuser:
What can we do? Call the DNC, call Biden campaign - tell Biden to drop out before its too late and he kills us all.
Biden contact page: https://go.joebiden.com/page/s/contact-us
DNC contact pager: https://democrats.org/contact-us/
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Okay, so now that we have a method of removing the front running candidate without real investigation, and only reaction, I’m assuming when someone comes forward accusing Bernie of it, he’ll be removed as well? Who is the candidate that the democrats run if we can’t trust old white guys from a generation where treating women like this is kind of how it goes?
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Just to be fair, you’re saying this not because you believe he did it, but because you think he’ll kill us all?
If being a old white guy is not a requirement, I could think of other suitable candidates. My personal preference is Warren.
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Unfortunately, she’s not the preference of Democratic (primary) voters.
It’s then fortunate that we have delegates and a convention that can still select another candidate.
Why are you asking this here? Do you think that this question should affect people’s judgment of whether the allegations are true? I, personally, obviously can’t know if they’re true or not, but they deserve to be treated with the same seriousness that other similar allegations do. If it can be destroyed by the truth, it needs to be destroyed by the truth.
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Warren would be out anyway, we can’t have anyone that has endorsed Biden or Sanders, if they both have allegations against them at that point.
I’m trying to figure out people’s intentions and ideas here. Like, okay, either the allegations are true, false, or some mixture of true and false. If they’re true, obviously he must go. If they’re false, obviously he should stay. If they’re some mixture, to be safe, he should probably go. But I gaurantee you that any older , white , person of power who has been in a position to abuse that power with a woman likely has crossed SOME line. I especially think this becomes even more true the longer their service has gone. We almost worshipped it from the Kennedys, we made a show called Mad Men that glorified it from advertisers in power, and from my father in the banking industry I promise it was there too.
I’m not condoning it, but saying, I promise you Bernie Sanders has said or done something to a woman that we would definitely now consider sexual assault in his life long career. We know Donald has, he’s proud to admit it.
So what I’m trying to figure out is what the path forward here is in a scenario where a vote third party is a vote for Donald, a write in for Bernie is a vote for Donald, voting for Donald is a vote for Donald, and voting for Biden is a betrayal of trust.
yes - because a the candidate is going to lose.
The primaries are not even close to over - we’ve just had the first two past halfway. Dear god, Biden, step away and let Sanders take over.
Its not about that. We can’t know the truth in the time frame of the election, and probably not ever. The decision must be made over winning the election, and Biden can not win the election, so the Democrats should ditch him now before its too late (coming very soon). Sanders is well poised to resume and is riding on the good will of his successful campaign. If the DNC has the courage to get behind him he will win.
I don’t understand what they are being such wimps about - they will still control congress and law-making. Sanders won’t get anything done that they don’t want him to get done. Their donors will be safe from taxes. But they fucking risk our very lives by sticking with Biden, all to just kiss ass to big money.
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As far as I know, Warren has not endorsed neither Biden nor Sanders. Additionally, any endorsement announced by anybody before allegations come to light can be later withdrawn based on information not available at the time of the endorsement.
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This assumes facts not in evidence. So does the claim that Sanders has better chances than Biden.
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Yes - fully my opinion that a Biden with rape charges against him will not win the election, while a Sanders fully endorsed by the DNC will. A Biden will never gain full support of the Democratic voters with this stain on his person, guilty or not. Its clearly a losing move to run him at this point.
Thats not a wild presumption.
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I don’t see the big issue you do with the article since it literally details all the people relevant to the case and publishes her full account of what happened. It actually lists one additional person backing her story up compared to the original anonymous friend and her brother, and the only denials come from the Biden camp. It’s extremely detailed without diving into the authors personally saying they believe her statements.
Anyone reading this and siding with Biden would be someone who was going to side with Biden no matter what. Maybe if there were not journalists seeking to personally profit from this by telling the most important people related to the story to not talk to the press it would have released on a large media platform faster.
Probably not cable news, but expecting cable news to do the right thing is a losing bet every time.
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There is no way in the world that Sanders would be the nominee if Biden stepped down. One of the other candidates would unsuspend their campaign, and most likely we’d have a brokered convention. If Sanders’ campaign hadn’t cratered, especially after most of the states that should have been his strongholds, he might have had a chance in the brokering, but that’s not going to happen now.
I hope the people who are adamant that Biden step down aren’t doing it because they share this fantasy that it will give the nomination to Sanders.
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Biden should step down because it is the right thing to do, regardless.
The DNC should give enough of a shit about the election to promote the clear #2 pick in Sanders, and enter the convention with a plan. Regardless of how they feel, having Sanders and Congress is more important than failing with Biden and trying again in 4 years.
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