I’ve been in the United States over a few administrations now, and believe me, the President really sets the tone of the country by what they say and do, even without any special laws or programs to back it up.
While you’re right to say that bigots have always been with us, Trump is letting them know they don’t have to keep it a secret anymore. And it’s going to get worse before it gets better.
I didnt mean to imply that you were.
Sad, but true.
I am a large male redneck, so I’m pretty sure I’d be able to work up the courage. That’s also why people share their bigoted shit with me like I’m supposed to agree with them, even though I reallyREALLYreally fucking don’t.
Ditto!
And here I cringe whenever I hear any mention of Ruth’s Chris.
Same language, different dialect.
They’ve certainly always been in craft stores. Michael’s, Joann’s, Hancock Fabrics, etc. Women who somehow have the patience to quilt or make elaborate beaded jewelry lose their fucking minds if there’s two people in line in front of them to purchase supplies.
Racists? I had no idea! 
Um… Maybe I’m Poeing here, but I think you’re misreading that comment.
First, I think Bells is a woman, from many previous references to a “Mr. Bells,” and second, I don’t think she’s stating a rule so much as pointing out that it’s weird that some women who should have more patience than the usual women average woman (as they regularly do a craft that requires patience), cannot abide waiting in line.
Edit: phrasing
I genuinely can’t tell if you’re mad at me for making the comment, or mad that it’s a thing I’ve observed.
I sew, and I feel for those craft store employees. I’ve seen Michael’s cashiers screamed at because people didn’t want to wait in line. I’ve seen people throw fits at the cutting tables of fabric stores because they didn’t see the giant “Please Take a Number” sign and they thought they were next in a line that didn’t exist. My daughter worked for Hancock and oh my word the abuse she’d get if they ran out of Local Football Team branded fleece.
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I beg to differ, and I’ll explain why because I live in the deepest South and I’m as susceptible as the next dude for stereotyping. Let’s get real: When we all heard “Kentucky”, “woman”, and “racist” – we had an image in our heads. I know I did. If you say you didn’t, then you’re one of the ones who says they don’t masturbate.
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I literally described the image in my head. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say to me here, either.
Sorry if I’ve misunderstood. I’m trying not to assign gender and then I fail, so apologies. I should stop going on BBS after a crap day.
As a guy who knits, I’ve observed the same thing. It mainly takes place in craft stores and supermarkets. I don’t know why.
She’s replying to the comment about stereotypes, not the last comment you posted.
That brings back memories… I used to do CNC-operator training for machines popular in the oil-service industry. I’ve spent many weeks over the last 25 years in the deep south (Louisiana and Texas mostly). I’m as white male as they come, so inevitably I’d have at least one person tell me “how things worked”. Worst was a mid-level manager who showed me his clan outfit he kept in the trunk of his car.
I feel compelled to mention I also met many very good people in my travels. White, black, hispanic, etc. There is much to like about the deep south.
Regrettably, it’s the bigots that I remember most clearly…
It was a mercy killing!
People aren’t born in batches, a generation at a time. Is a boomer born in 1964 going to think differently from a GenXer born in 1965? I don’t know, and neither does anyone else, because that’s not the only way attitudes and personalities are formed. It doesn’t make sense to dismiss an arbitrary age group as hopelessly racist and hostile to progress, even if you know one like that.
Have you considered that it might be a good idea to join forces with those who hold progressive views, and to try and persuade those who don’t, even if some of them are old? “Waiting for the boomers to die” really isn’t a viable political strategy.
I lived in Lexington, KY (there’s one in MI, btw) from 1995 to 1999. It was…different. I felt I could do more things because, LOL, no one knew me there but my (now late) second-ex-husband and my son.
The “let’s not jump to conclusions” crowd usually show up to these parties, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a case this weak. Give it a rest. There is no way to take her statement other than for it’s obvious face value.
I’m not really part of that ‘crowd’ . Or maybe I am. I’m starting to get tired of internet witch hunts in general.
Though I must admit I did not carefully listen to the entire thing before reacting. The world is full of racist dumb old ladies, singling out one and lambasting her on the internet is not going to have a net positive outcome IMHO. But maybe I’m just getting old and cranky and it will magically turn her around and let her see the light. Stranger things have happened.
Yes, it is. She came over here from Poland via a Mexican convent when she was four…lost all but 2 siblings out of 13. An iron maiden inside a china doll, I’ll tell ya!
That is charming. I had an OB/GYN who was sigh Argentinian; it was almost like being examined by Ricardo Montalban.
It’s odd how easily people decide what they are based on those sorts of posts that aren’t direct callouts.
I wonder why that occurs.
Perhaps not to her and perhaps not by lambasting* her personally.
But what may have a net positive outcome is changing the way that this sort of behaviour is dealt with in public and cases like this can start good conversations about the best ways to react and how to defuse situations while showing that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept, sort of thing.
*Mmmmm… Basted Lamb…
