Kevin McCarthy finally admonishes Marjorie Taylor Greene, saying her Holocaust remarks were "appalling"

In this case, she’s spreading antisemitic memes. I’d say that’s a pretty serious thing that should be addressed and specifically condemned.


Maybe we just weren’t ignoring them hard enough?


Imagine how much trouble we could have saved the nation fighting those Nazis the first time around if the press had simply refused to report any of the times Hitler said something outrageous.


“At a time when the Jewish people face increased violence and threats, anti-Semitism is on the rise in the Democrat Party and is completely ignored by Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Had to work in that whataboutism.


Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Jean-Paul Sartre


Lol, I did recall that comment, I just felt it was cramming too much into a comment to put in the aside that I wasn’t making a claim that she wasn’t antisemetic!

Via CNN…

“Jeff Miller, a board member of the Republican Jewish Coalition and member of US Holocaust Memorial Museum Council, also highlighted and criticized Greene’s latest tweet Tuesday.”

"WTF is wrong with you?" asked Miller, the former vice chairman of the Trump inaugural committee and a one-time ally to the former President. “I think you need to pay a visit to the US Holocaust Museum.I’d be happy to arrange.Then maybe going forward you wouldn’t make anymore disgusting, ignorant and offensive tweets.If I’m wrong and you’re not ignorant about Holocaust…then you are disgusting.”

He’s certainly right about disgusting. She is disgusting.

(They know WTF is wrong with her.)


That’s rich coming from the woman who constantly rambles on about how the Democrats are part of a secret global cabal funded by George Soros and the Rothschilds.


How exactly did you get “…so we should let them speak unchallenged instead of calling them out on their specific antisemitic comments” out of that?


I’m aware of that quote, thanks. Just because it’s Sartre, doesn’t mean he was correct, at the time or right now. He wrote that well before the age of social media, in france, at a time before we had a mass media where “both sides” are often given equal weight in public discussions, even when they’re not of equivalent reality. He wrote that well before the hard right had managed to create it’s own global counterpublic that is infecting our discussions on issues like race, gender, religion, etc.

We know that ignoring them has not worked, because they have successfully colonized one of our major political parties. Actual NAZIs have been running for public office AS members of the GOP, which was a tactical plan by the far right that’s been evolving since the end of the classical civil rights era. They have been working both to infiltrate one of the major political parties AND to get the media to down play the seriousness of their infilitration for decades now, and this is what has not been taken seriously by the mainstream media. Meanwhile, you have people on national television regularly spewing white nationalist talking points. But all this time, we’ve told that we should ignore them, because they are crazy and no serious politician would embrace white supremacy in this way.

So ignoring it has done two things in terms of keeping them out of our political systems: Jack and shit.


Where did I say that we shouldn’t challenge them or push back on their vile rhetoric?

We can do that clearly and unequivocally as often as needed with the minimum effort that bad faith arguments deserve. She’s been condemned roundly. She’s been stripped of all committee roles. She’s going to keep saying offensive stupid things designed to generate outrage. It’s giving additional oxygen to outrage-generating tactics that I have a problem with, it plays right into misinformation network amplification and provides incentives to keep saying and doing outrageous things.

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But is that REALLY antisemitic? /s


Remind me how well engagement and fact-checking has gone?

She’s been stripped of those committee roles as a direct result of the public outrage that followed widespread publication of her outrageous comments.


Yes, that’s understood. What’s additional outrage do now? She’s not going to change. Her party is only going to reluctantly condemn her while continuing to fluff the Big Lie. They will resist all efforts to expel her. So issue the latest condemnation and move on. There are bigger and more dangerous idiots in office.

I agree about not forgetting the others. But I do think the holocaust definitely counts as one of the most significant atrocities, and equating any genocide to wearing masks does belittle all of them, so at least this much isn’t wrong.


How about get her expelled from freakin’ congress? Or in the very least voted out on her ass in the next election. Maybe even drag down a few of her political allies with her.

I don’t follow your reasoning that SOME public outrage was good because it removed her from certain positions of power, but MORE public outrage can only hurt because… reasons.


Oh I believe that she is just as dangerous as Cotton, Hawley or Cruz.

Since she has nothing else to do (sorry constituents) her job is to be the QoP megaphone for hate and bigotry and all things Q. That is not trivial. She is a walking trump rally.


but MORE public outrage can only hurt because… reasons.

Because it martyrs her in the misinformation networks that are going to be a permanent feature of the political landscape moving forward, because there are bigger slime balls who need to be on blast in the media, because this right here is wasted effort in-fighting.

We’re capable of doing multiple things at once. Why are you so interested in stopping people from focusing on her?


It’s not about her in particular for me, it’s the whole “learning absolutely nothing from our mistakes”.