Yeah, I’m sorry. It’s in the Regulars lounge, not accessible to TL1 users.
Looks like this (I don’t think it’s a sensitive post I shouldn’t show… none of 'em really are):
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What about this one?
Or this one?
Honestly, though, I don’t want to carp. I’m pleased that it seems to have been resolved to everyone’s satisfaction, so hooray!
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It sounded like a request for a self ban to me, so I obliged for 24 hrs. Please let me know if I got it wrong when you are back.
You got it wrong, IMHO. That’s a pretty harsh response to a minor gripe.
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Sigh.
Okay, Jeff was talking about a new Meta topic. These are from a year or two ago. That kinda gives some insight into why we thought this wouldn’t get addressed without us making a stink about it. It was brought up as a Meta topic. The small incremental fixes were not enough. @daneel’s not being a dick by pointing that out, especially since those discussions were in the public record. We’re not trying to be snide since we got what we asked for. But the fact remains that the issue was raised several times in the past, and didn’t get satisfactorily resolved until now, and I, for one, didn’t see how a nice polite “Could you alter this setting a bit please?” would fix the issue. That approach had not fixed it before.
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was this really needed? the whole Like Wars drama was not exactly a highlight of happy mutants communication and was rather frustrating for all involved - but the block smells very much like shoot the messenger
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Ugh. That’s so, organized… 
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Let’s go over, again, the changes made due to this feedback:
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Early 2015: likes per day was increased to 100
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May 2015: Trust level 2, 3 and 4 got daily like increases of 1.5×, 2×, and 3× respectively
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Feb 2016: Trust level 3 daily multiplier like increased from 2× to 3×
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(ONE I FORGOT!) ~April 2016 We added a little alert that let you know when you are close to your like limit, so you aren’t surprised by suddenly running out of likes.
Where exactly is “you guys weren’t listening” in there, again? Help me understand.
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i found the following 6 posts that had @mentions of you in them. there were also multiple quote replies that included the @mention but i don’t know if that triggers a notification the way a direct mention does. still, you should have had 6 notifications on these mentions.
https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/warning-aunt-jills-nostalgia-cabinet-warning/36144/9379?u=navarro https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/warning-aunt-jills-nostalgia-cabinet-warning/36144/9384?u=navarro https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/warning-aunt-jills-nostalgia-cabinet-warning/36144/9386?u=navarro https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/warning-aunt-jills-nostalgia-cabinet-warning/36144/9474?u=navarro https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/warning-aunt-jills-nostalgia-cabinet-warning/36144/9523?u=navarro https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/warning-aunt-jills-nostalgia-cabinet-warning/36144/9549?u=navarro
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Yeah, I have that topic muted because it’s a de-facto chat topic and a bit noisy for my tastes. So that explains it.
TL;DR create a meta topic. Have I mentioned the #meta category? You can create topics there. It’s pretty cool.
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that would explain why you ended up with no notifications on the issue.
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got it.
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You can assume I will mute all chat topics, so if you want to reach me… wait for it… create a meta topic.
PMs could also work.
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I gotta share my love aloud and proud just for this sentence! 
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this is getting a little too meta for me, should i start a meta-meta topic?
(i keed, i keed, but i will say this: i take one week off and everything goes to aitch-eee-double-hockeysticks. i apologize for shirking my duties, it won’t happen again. the fish puns will continue till noone can use Likes in any serious capacity.)
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I get ya. I’m not saying you guys were totally unresponsive. I’m saying that approach hadn’t fixed the issue before. If I read the formulas correctly, TL3 would have had 300 likes per day as of this February. I never hit that limit, but it’s certainly easy for a Regular (whose status is based largely upon reading a lot of posts daily) to read a couple hundred comments per hour on a busy site like this. The incremental increases, well-intentioned as they were and applied in good faith as they were, were too low for some users who happen to be very active members of the community, and the logic behind the limitation on Likes may not have been effectively communicated (or simply been disagreed with).
I, myself, knew for quite a while that Liz and Mindy and several other users were frustrated by the Like limit… hence the Waaah thread, the one with 420 comments spanning a year and a half. The low-level grumbling turned into actual troublemaking concern when Liz decided she really didn’t want to put up with the frustration anymore… and we really didn’t want to lose such a valued member of the community over what struck us as a bad limitation. And again, it was not well-understood that this was a variable setting that Rob and Jason et al had control over, rather than a baked-in part of Discourse in general. I don’t know if Jason fixed it in a moment of pique just to shut us up, or as a good-faith response to our (probably annoying) complaints… but the issue is fixed, and nobody’s causing any untoward havoc thereby. I mean, if Like-spamming does become a real and present issue, you’ll let us know, settings will be changed, and the world will continue to spin merrily on its axis.
I do understand that from your perspective, each of those four incremental fixes you listed should have been viewed as positive changes, and yes I do agree that we should be grateful for them. We are. But as it turned out, those changes were too small to effectively eliminate the issue, though each iteration probably shrunk the number of people complaining about the issue by a measurable amount.
Yes, 31,000 Likes per day is more than anyone would ever need. Twenty Likes per minute, twenty-four hours a day? No, that’s not what anyone needed. Somewhere between 300 and 31,000 is where the sweet spot lies. Maybe 1,000 would have been more than enough for a “power user” without causing Like inflation to the point of devaluing the Like by an order of magnitude or so. I don’t know.
But I guess the important thing is that we, as users, are reminded that the Meta category is the best place to register concerns over stuff like this, and that you are reminded that we squawk about stuff like this because we love using your creation so damned much, and we’ve come to rely upon it, and we’re desperate to understand, on those occasions when it doesn’t meet our expectations perfectly, why it doesn’t meet them, since it’s otherwise so good in so many ways.
Thanks for helping improve our understanding.
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Speak for yourself.
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Oh! You’re back! Welcome, we missed you.
And so I stand corrected.
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Since I started the second one, and didn’t think I’d been a regular for that long, I double checked: my meta thread on this was started May 28.
