Mein Drumpf

[anon68952647]

SynchronyciT?

[jerwin]

I think you need to focus on properly kerning your text. Simply disgraceful.

[kupfernigk]

@Gyrofrog

I wonder whether anyone self-identifies as a bigot.

Politically perhaps not, but an evangelical fundamentalist once told me that Catholics weren’t Christians, and I told him that to believe that you had to be a bigot. To which he replied that in that case he was proud to be a bigot.
…arseholes the lot of them.

[robulus]

@petzl

Unless someone is actually wearing a brownshirt, uses the Hitler salute, and has a dogeared, Hi-Liter/Post-It bedazzled copy of Mein Kampf, they aren’t a Nazi. Find a different, more imaginative adjective. And it’s neo-Nazi in any case.

OK I’ll have a crack. He’s an opportunistic demagogue who has no problem tapping into the deep dissatisfaction his country feels with it’s government and using that to fuel hatred against migrants, refugees and minorities, and seeks only power.

You know who else was an opportunistic demagogue who had no problem tapping into the deep dissatisfaction his country felt with it’s government and used that to fuel hatred against migrants, refugees and minorities, and sought only power?

[nemomen]

@petzl

Unless someone is actually wearing a brownshirt, uses the Hitler salute, and has a dogeared, Hi-Liter/Post-It bedazzled copy of Mein Kampf, they aren’t a Nazi.

What if they don’t dress as a brownshirt, only occasionally use the Hitler salute, at least at one point liked to say “Heil Hitler” to friends, and they keep a copy of Hitler’s speeches, My New Order?

Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.
…
“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

After the Gold Rush

Note that the piece was written in 1990 long before Trump’s political efforts.

[shaddack]

@anon15383236

http://www.trumpdonald.org/

That’s priceless.

…but he could have it worse, it could be a vuvuzela.

Also,

Hitler Reacts to Donald Trump Running for President

[petzl]

@robulus

You know who else was an opportunistic demagogue who had no problem tapping into the deep dissatisfaction his country felt with it’s government and used that to fuel hatred against migrants, refugees and minorities, and sought only power?

Huey Long?

[Wanderfound]

@m_a_t

I agree with Petzl. Comparing this to the crimes of Hitler’s SA is absurd.

Hitler was enraged and mad. Trump is just a huge pile of stupid.

Nobody is saying that current-day Trumpism is equivalent to full-throttle NSDAP. But it doesn’t take a great deal of imagination to see how a movement that begins like this one has could metastasise into something massively dangerous. Germany didn’t go from Cabaret to Auschwitz overnight; the shift was gradual.

Incidentally, Hitler was also a huge pile of stupid. Midway through the war, the British intelligence agencies cancelled their plans to assassinate Hitler, on the grounds that Adolph as CinC was one of the greatest strategic advantages the Allies possessed.

[m_a_t]

Sorry, but not wanting to put Mussolini on a pedestral, this man wasn’t a hollow figure. He had been a socialist for decades and was highly litterate, had read and tranlated Kant and Schopenhauer and later slipped towards fascism with the whole Italian futurist movement.

Stop making these silly comparaisons. All you do is inflate the derisory figure that is Donald Trump. As I said in comment sections before, this is all he craves. He lives from the huge publicity that is being made for him, specially from the democratic left. TYT were first to notice this mechanism. They tried to conter it by blurring his face in every video, thus enhancing the effect of making him seem special. Trump is neither Hitler nor Mussolini, neither Franco nor any other fascist leader. He is a bigg balloon hot hot air, filled with phrases that he picks up on the far right and that he keep echoing back at the masses. Without the attention, he is nothing but an old man with bad hair.

[m_a_t]

The movement is already there and it’s older than Trump’s candidature. It’s called the Tea Party Movement and also the Religious Right and the leading figure of these movements isn’t Trump, it’s Cruz. Cruz is much more dangerous than Trump, believe me. this guy is a full-blown fascist with an agenda and a movement behind him that is ready to crack down on their adversaries. If elected president, I’m certain he would transform his country into a christian version of Iran in no time.
Trump has nothing really, except a few rowdies here and there. His ideology is totally inexistant and inconsistant. He’s gonig to make everything bigger and better. That’s it. Oh and he’s going to give muslims a bad time. All that is nothing but hollow phrases to gain popularity. I’m pretty sure that if Trump won the presidentship, none of this would happen and he’d just be the lamest president ever.

[Wanderfound]

@m_a_t

I’m pretty sure that if Trump won the presidentship, none of this would happen and he’d just be the lamest president ever.

And I’m pretty sure that you would be much less relaxed about the possibilities if you were, for example, Muslim.

I agree with you on Cruz, BTW.

[failquail]

Egad, are you trying to give me nightmares with those pics?

[kupfernigk]

@shaddack

Also,

One of the best Downfall scripts I’ve seen. Thanks.

[kupfernigk]

@m_a_t

I’m pretty sure that if Trump won the presidentship, none of this would happen and he’d just be the lamest president ever.

I am surprised that nobody keeps bringing up that one of Trump’s business partners is a Saudi. If he’s going to discriminate against anybody it will be the Shi’a. Until, that is, he sits down with the President of Iran and Trump Tehran gets announced.

But I agree with you entirely about Cruz. Cruz and Rubio are far more frightening because they are better at making obnoxious policies sound somehow acceptable, as they employ clever PR people.
President Trump might actually prove to be a President who did very little, and in fact that could be just what the US needs. There’s an urban legend about the supposed Chinese curse “May you live in interesting times”, but there is truth in it.

[m_a_t]

[quote=“Wanderfound, post:112, topic:74460”]
And I’m pretty sure that you would be much less relaxed about the possibilities if you were, for example, Muslim.[/quote]

True, but I’m also pretty sure his stomping around about muslim is just a show. If he was to become president, he’s be much too proccupied to lick the Saoudi’s behinds to make his agitation against muslim a reality. Right now, he know noone would ever buy it if he played the religious card, so he found that trick to get the religious right on his side: good old hate against a common fiend.

[m_a_t]

@kupfernigk

I am surprised that nobody keeps bringing up that one of Trump’s business partners is a Saudi. If he’s going to discriminate against anybody it will be the Shi’a. Until, that is, he sits down with the President of Iran and Trump Tehran gets announced.

This, exactly. Basically just like old Ronald Reagan.

[Gyrofrog]

@m_a_t

True, but I’m also pretty sure his stomping around about muslim is just a show.

I’m inclined to agree with you about his stomping around. It’s the social climate in which he does this that I’m more worried about. And, of course, that climate didn’t start with Trump – but I think others are more emboldened to be vocal (or worse) about it.

I see this sort of horseshit on Facebook, e.g. from relatives and people I knew in high school. I have to wonder if they actually know anyone – anybody – who is a Muslim, African American or gay. I thought, maybe it’s because they never left (or were just stuck in) the environment in which they grew up, but OTOH I grew up there, too, and I knew better while I was there.

[m_a_t]

Yeah, it’s not alone your backgound that shapes you, it’s also your experience. As you said, your old friends and relatives obviously never left the tracks. They are still like scared children in this world, with scared children’s minds, which has dramatic consequences. These people make out the bulk of voters and they will elect the person who promises them the most candy and also to protect them from the big bad wulfes huffing and puffing outside their little piggy houses

[anon50609448]

@thekaz

My guess is, on the off chance Trump wins, Congress refuses to pass/approve anything he does (shocker, I know!) until he decides to do something without Congress, at which point we get Impeachment hearings… or just 4 years of lame duck Presidency…

You are very optimistic. My guess is that enough sycophants in congress line up behind him.

@some_guy

That is a cool GIF, and while Trump is kind of an egotistical loudmouth, he is still not Hitler. Nor will he ever be, unless a President Trump were to find a way to dissolve congress and fire the Supreme Court (or replace the Justices with twelve cronies.)

I also find this too optimistic. He might not be, but he really might be. Unless it could not happen here.

@replicant1968

Comparing phücking everyone to Hitler has made the comparison totally benign…

Might I direct you to this article where Godwin himself endorses informed comparisons between Trump and Hitler: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/sure-call-trump-a-nazi-just-make-sure-you-know-what-youre-talking-about/

Basically we have an economically depressed people supporting a demagogue who says he can fix everything by demonizing a racial minority and a religious minority. This is happening in several European countries right now too. What do you think will happen if Trump is elected and then there is a domestic terror attack by Muslims? What will his response be?

Those people with their ubiquitous cell phone cameras will film the thugs beating up Muslims in the streets but that video will get a million likes on Facebook.

[JonathanR]

This seems really counter-productive and damaging to the reputation as a journalist that you’ve worked hard to build.

I think there’s a lot about Trump to genuinely criticize, and I hope we get to see that type of commentary from BoingBoing.