Men's rights meltdown at McDonalds

Me neither, but I was trying to think of a disability that has physical characteristics.

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It’s fine - I understood what you meant. I’m done here anyhow. :wink:

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I’m with you here.
Mental illness or no, the behavior is unacceptable.
I’m not a huge fan of mocking anyone, I guess- but that doesn’t excuse his actions here.
What about the impact on the woman he’s berating?
What about sharing the video to offer support to the victims of the behavior?
There seem to be plenty of reasons to share the video.

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ironically, probably some mental illness on her part, since she likely has to deal with this often working in fast food. And of course, she probably can’t afford to pay for proper care.

I’m just a little sick of literally anytime a white guy does something bad, it gets waved away as mental illness. Sorry if I blew up at anyone.

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I understand the idea of invisible disabilities, but it’s amazing that this shit is only invisible when it comes to men. I used to be a teacher and I worked with “invisible disabilities.” Yes, these disabilities can be frustrating, but I don’t think misogyny is a side effect. That’s insulting to people who have them and deal with these issues all the time.

Also, even though I only watched half of the video (because :rolling_eyes: this is an ongoing issue), I noticed that the gentleman appeared to see the man filming yet didn’t have choice words for him.

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Yes, this video contains misogyny and I think misogyny should be called out. I think there’s something to be said for picking one’s battles. If a public figure, or corporate entity shows bigotry it should be called out. If an individual at McDonalds who appears to be mentally ill says something crazy, it feels like less of a win.

It’s plausible that he doesn’t have the same faculties we do, so lets not assume he does.

Wait did i miss something? Is being a sexist asshole a mental illness now? Man are the hospitals gonna fill up fast!!

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You know, at one point my grandfather became a real asshole to everyone in the house. He made all kinds of remarks that were both bigoted and personal. We all began to greatly dislike him. His doctor later discovered a golfball sized tumour in his brain. Almost immediate after it was removed, he returned to his lovable self.

Good thing we didn’t post his behaviour on Boingboing… that might have ruined his life.

Unlike male pattern baldness or erectile dysfunction however, I don’t think there are teams scrambling for a cure for Misogynist Asswipe Disease.

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If they developed a “viagra” for sexist assholes… would they take it?

A question for the ages really…

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We could forcibly adminster it? Dart guns, or suppositories?

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…the water supply?

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I have several invisible disabilities, both physical and mental. It does not ever excuse this kind of behaviour, all that does is make life harder for everyone else with an invisible disability.

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Two things… first, the vast majority of people who suffer from mental illness are, as you correctly point out, victimized themselves. They suffer from an illness that can’t be seen and are assumed to be broken or bad people. Second, they, generally speaking don’t act out in violent (whether that’s physical or social/mental violence) ways. Your assumption here is that the mentally ill can’t also be held to account for their actions or that this sort of behavior is representative of mental illness. I don’t think that’s true and associating these sorts of behaviors as “mentally ill” only helps stigmatize the mentally ill AND makes the problems of sexism in our society not a social one that we can solve, but a individuated, privatized one that is unfortunate, but can’t be helped. “Normal” men are not misogynistic, goes the thinking and I assure you that they very much can be.

There is a huge problem with white men when they do things that are unacceptable, quickly being labeled as mentally ill rather than driven by self-righteousness and ideology. Rarely are women or POC called mentally ill when doing mean and cruel things or committing acts of violence.

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I understand your frustration with people filming and posting. BB didn’t film and its only an aggregate news filter. I would never film someone having meltdown. I also wouldn’t like someone filming me, which is why I would never let myself get to that point.

My issue is that this person lost any possible sympathy when he called the McDonald’s employee a bitch and then tried to justify it’s use in the English language. I didn’t hear any other choice words or him directing his anger at the corporation. Some people thought he was drunk, but I personally thought he was angry about his lack of choices and took out his frustration with the female employee behind the counter.

He was being an entitled prick. Sorry if I don’t buy into your defense.

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Should we hold him accountable for that period? Was he in control?

I personally have epilepsy and seizures… where I literally lose all control of my body. When I have a seizure, can I be held “accountable” if I somehow harm someone during a seizure? Maybe, but should it be published on BoingBoing for millions of people, to see what a bad person I am? I’d hope not.

Of course not and we do get your point about being filmed and that being put online. You don’t deserve that for something out of your control. And obviously your grandfather had no control over his behavior when he had a brain tumor.

But that’s not what is happening in this video. He’s making a choice of what language to use - whether or not he’s mentally ill (which is still up for debate). Calling someone a bitch for something out of their control tends not to be sign of mental illness, but a sign of being an asshole.

But your inability to understand how misogyny is a problem that isn’t a mental illness is where we are in disagreement here.

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I think people at BB would be close to pitchforks if someone filmed you during a seizure. We do nuance, you know. For me, I’m super tired of lower wage earners being picked on and even more tired of excusing white male privilege.

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As a person with a serious mental illness, fuck you for doing exactly what you are accusing other people of doing. Psychiatrists can’t diagnose mental illnesses by watching low quality videos of people acting badly, and I have a feeling that you aren’t even a psychiatrist.

People who do not have mental illnesses get into drunken fights, steal things, yell at people, kill people, and on and on just as much as people with mental illnesses do. People who do have mental illnesses treat other people with consideration just as much as people without mental illnesses do. Associating vicious behaviour with mental illness shows extreme prejudice against mentally ill people on your part. Saying that a person with a mental illness is not responsible for their actions is insanely degrading. At times people are so completely unaware of their situations or the consequences of their actions that they truly can’t be held accountable, but this guy was yelling misogyny, not sleepwalking.

In my experience, people who sympathize with misogyny think that asking a man to apologize is “ruining his life.” In this case, no one is even suggesting he apologize. No identifying information about him appears in the post. It’s just a video of something someone saw in a public place.

Actions in public are public. I know that is scary. It scares the hell out of me. But if you act like an asshole in public it might get around that you acted like an asshole in public.

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I think it was you who posted the image below a while back. It certainly summarizes my sentiments towards this guy.

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