Just cautious, not condemning. There’s recent history of alt-right activists, of whom we get plenty of visits from, attempting to trick folks into going after innocent targets.
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Honest question: The Young Republicans have a poor reputation, and from everything I’ve read on BB, a pretty well-deserved one; do they have this sort of reputation among young college students? Do the YR market themselves as political trollies? My assumption was that they were supposed to be just clubs for like-minded republican students, which is why I am (was?) giving them as much benefit of the doubt. (As I said in an earlier comment, I have never personally interacted with any)
That’s not an unreasonable stance, just not one I agree with. My worry here is that from an outside perspective, this can set up a false equivalence between the anger we feel about an antisemitic valentine’s card and the anger we feel towards campus invites for genuine call-to-action hate speakers (MiloY). Don’t get me wrong, it’s a false equivalence, but it could have the unfortunate side-effect of watering down more-important criticism. Just imagine a right- or center-leaning skeptic of all this saying “they get this angry about everything, it’ll just be something else tomorrow, who cares?”
Honestly, I don’t know. If they’re reasonable human beings they should have called this out internally (since it was just a single card given at an internal event, not a mass-distribution) and said it’s not OK, and if they’re not, then they really do have a problem. The fact that this issue came to public attention means we’ll never know how they would have responded without outside pressure.
I’d like to think that people are willing to call out misdeeds among their own, but it’s getting harder and harder to keep that particular faith these days.
I kind of doubt these guys are getting as much action on campus as the college athletics clubs. Or the drama club. Or the chess club.
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I don’t really understand what you mean. The people in this photo look like kids to me, and I assume a certain amount of naivete. I grew up in WI and for a while was a hardcore libertarian thanks to my econ teacher. In college that changed (CA taught me the error of my ways), and only in my mid/late 20s did I really feel like my political opinion was my own.
Anyway, my point is, to an incoming frosh who’s a Republican because his parents are Republican, do the YR look like anything besides “the club where republicans hang out”?
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Understandable, we had to deal with Trolls at DKos and during my anti-Spam activist days. I’m happy with people actually being sceptical about information being posted. People should dig in and research what is going on around themselves. The tools are out there, it’s just that most people don’t want to put the effort into it. One of my favorite memes is “Facts have a Liberal Bias”. If you look, you will see the truth.
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“It wasn’t us, it was some woman over there!” followed by ducking under the podium.
When questioned about it later, the president said, “I assure she is real, she just left town to spread hate somewhere else. We are the unfortunate victims of a roving female anti-Semite.”/s
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You do realize that you just agreed with me, right?
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Yes? I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make.
To rephrase: If YR posted this all over campus, I’d be with all of you on the condemnation. <“but” goes here> They did not, therefore I am not.
To elaborate: It was a deplorable, but fundamentally small act, I disagree with it on all levels, but in my opinion it’s not worth the rage people are showing it. I’m not going to bother going further because I elaborated over many more comments than was good for my mental health.
At this point, I just don’t want people misrepresenting me as some sort of antisemite apologist or right-wing troll (see comment by smulder). I am neither.
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Anybody got some mayonnaise to put on all this white bread?
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As a graphic designer, you surely would have recognized that the picture used in this article is fake.
As a presumably home-printed card, it could not have produced white ink on a pink surface. It would have looked more like the lower version.
Maybe the paper is white and the pink is printed.
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Really??? It looks to me like the picture was affixed to the card, not printed onto it.
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Aw, come on. You can see the jagged pixelated edges of the Hitler picture, slightly smoothed out by some nearest-neighbor algorithm. If this was cut out with real scissors, the edges would have been much straighter. Instead, this looks very much like someone used a lasso tool and moved their not so steady hand with a mouse.
The Hitler picture also has a white halo, which is an artefact of some cheap photo editing tool overlaying two images.
You can also tell by the blackness of the image and the Comic Sans text that this is no real photograph of the text. It’s way too saturated compared with the underlying photograph of someone holding up an empty piece of pink paper.
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Yes, maybe. I think that’s 0,1% likely.
As someone who is not a graphic designer, I’m not in a good position to argue, I can simply say what it looked like to me.
But, what is your point? Since the YRs apologized for the card, it seems a pretty safe bet that it did indeed exist.
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My point is: if you have some journalistic integrity in these times of fake news, don’t get tempted to use (clearly) photoshopped images to support your journalistic claims. If you use fake pictures in a non-satirical way, you are a distributor of fake news.
The BBC web page this article is referring to does it right: no fake picture there.
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Facebook is public?
Well, you know how women date bad boys? I had my bad boy (Republican) fling during my junior year, which was at the end of the Reagan administration.
Don’t judge me. This was several months after my heart got broken by someone else, and it was a very fun distraction. We had zero in common, but I suspect he loved the idea of being with someone liberal.
When he graduated and was packing up to move back home, he was very surprised that I was the one who said that it would be okay by me if we didn’t stay in touch.
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Ah yes the same group that tried to make Bernie out to be a racist.
Cute.
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