I would tie it to entitlement of white manbabies more than anything else.
Infuriating, though unsurprising from that broken record. Heās been blowing that homophobic dog whistle since Columbine, and variations since before he was Governor of Arkansas
Whatās most infuriating is that plenty of LBGQT+ people are people of faith. He doesnāt get to define that for others.
isnāt the us one of the most religious countries?
maybe this is like trickle down economics, tax breaks for the rich, and responsible gun ownership. since theyāve never solved our problems before, we just need more of the same.
someday itās gotta work right? ( thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers. )
That assumes that people of faith = bigots. Maybe we should listen to all people of faith (and the diversity therein) instead of listening to bigots?
Not all religion is faith.
Xtians arenāt Christians.
I say this as an adamant atheist who follows the teachings of Christ more faithfully than Xtians such as Huckabee.
just the superstitious ones:
bigot, n. and adj.
Forms: 15ā bigot , 16 biggot .
Origin: A borrowing from French. Etymon: French bigot .
Etymology: < Middle French bigot (French bigot ā¦ (Show More)
A. n.ā 1. A religious hypocrite; (also) a superstitious adherent of religion. Obsolete .
1598 T. Speght Wks. G. Chaucer sig. Aaaa.ii Bigin, bigot , superstitious hypocrite [1602 adds or hypocriticall woman].
1653 T. Urquhart tr. Rabelais 1st Bk. Wks. xl. 181 He is no bigot or hypocrite.
1656 T. Blount Glossographia Bigot (Fr.), an hypocrite, or one that seems much more holy then he is, also a scrupulous or Superstitious fellow.
1664 H. More Modest Enq. Myst. Iniquity 436 One part of their Church becomes Sotts and Bigots.
a 1721 J. Sheffield Wks. (1740) 201 Yet some thought the Vacancy open was kept, Concluding the Bigot would never accept: But the Hypocrite told them, he well understood, Thoā the Function was wicked, the Stipend was good.
1787 W. Beckford Portuguese Jrnl. 18 June (1954) 88 I should never finish were I to tell you all the nonsense trumpeted about in my favour by nuns, friars, and bigots of every rank and denomination.
Okay. I guessā¦ whatever that means in creating a world that is less full of hatredā¦
i didnāt read the op to be honest. itās a small thing, but there are some things i donāt want to give traffic to.
all i got out of the headline was him saying we arenāt christian enough. ( which reads to me like, we havenāt cut taxes enough, or stood our ground enough, etc. ) iām not sure where the bigot part comes from.
personally, i have a not very strongly held belief that looking towards an all powerful patriarch ( and his fam ) only winds up with people trying to reflect that structure here on earth.
only a limited amount of good can come from it, because the foundation is broke.
ānot strongly heldā though cause what do i know? iām not christian, and, yeah, the bigots among them get the most airtime.
morallity to me comes from accepting people instead of accepting god. and while religion is often mistaken for morality, iām pretty sure thereās zero relation. he wants to stand on some moral ground that does not exist.
Huckabee is a bigot, and plenty of Christians are not bigots. Itās shitty to assume that literally every Christian on earth is represented by Huckabee when youāre talking about more than a billion human beings. Iām not defending him. Iām defending the millions of human beings who live a life that is not dictated by a bigoted human being.
fair.
my take is, for any given practicing christian i meet in real life - they have to do the convincing. and while plenty have convinced me, my default trust level is more like t0 than t4.
[ edit: and that is because of the bigots. and the white jesus. and the god and country. and because i just donāt get a big man in the sky. it might not be fair. itās just the world i see. or the country at any rate. ]
My personal metric has become based on how they express their views on their fellow human beings and how our society should protect their rights. I grew up with plenty of bigoted protestants. I am more interested in reaching out to people who want to improve the world for all of us. Huckabee is clearly not one of them. I donāt think that fact should condemn all of protestant Christianity. I understand being wary, but weāre in dangerous times. Letās reach out to any and all allies.
well said.
who knows, there may be hope for them yet
Itās literally the only path to fixing our broken world.
i look at the the way puerto ricans just rallied to get their governor to resign, and iām not entirely sure.
if we were doing the same: to get 45 out office, to end ice, to get gun control laws enacted: that would be enough.
i guess i think we already have overlap with enough groups that iām not sure we actually need more overlap, or even more inter-group ties. it would help. but itās not a prerequisite.
what we need seems to be somethingā¦ else.
something that gives us all a ( non violent ) way of saying enough is enough.
i think weāll only know once itās happened.
Puerto Ricans came together despite their differences. Weāre (mainland Americans) not doing the same.
they had a singular goal, and a singular method. that channel for energy is even almost more key than mutual respect and understanding
yeah, if we had the latter weād gain the former. and the latter is the long term goal. ideally. but, we shouldnāt wait for that
By their fruits shall you know them, basically.
I dunno. It feels as if Iāve heard this argument a lot.
āBashing gays is a core tenet of our religion, and youāre bigoted against our sincerely held religious beliefs if you criticize them. Bigotry as no place in a free society, you liberal fascist!ā