For some people - yes. Others, not so much. Depends how much you worked out and how much one sweats and what their BO is like. It’s usually just a quick rinse and some more deodorant.
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Our high school had showers, but even the sports folks rarely used them (at least the Track/XC teams I ran on). Anything before that, I don’t recall any kind of showers at all.
I found this link elsewhere. It appears to be legitimate.
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that fat old pedophile. and by the way, mike, don’t try to tell us you don’t look at pornography.
I love how OLD this guy sounds, i mean not that age specifically has anything to do with being a sensitive conscious human being, but this attempt at “humor” is so dated and well I suppose he’s already figured to just go with the over-65 vote… my god. Keep talking dude! the repub candidate race is about as good of shit show to be seen.
At a certain point the base assumption seemed to be that men did not need or want privacy. Many people from my parents generation have told my that men’s rooms in their youth did not have stall doors. Or just did not have stalls. I’ve seen a number of older bathrooms that have gone without renovations since the 60’s or earlier. Stalls with no doors, the dreaded trough (literally a metal trough hanging off the wall to stand in for urinals), etc. Even one bar who’s bathroom has no stall doors, the trough, and no bathroom door. I like the bar just fine, but I don’t like that I effectively have to piss and shit in public. I’ve always assumed the gendered bathrooms was a carry over from that. If men’s rooms were effectively an unwashed pit full of dangling wieners and displayed assholes you couldn’t let the ladies in. And if men were so unwilling to defecate with some common decency you certainly couldn’t let them share space with the ladies.
Now I’m just confused as to why in the hell anyone thought/thinks men don’t want privacy while they go about their business. I have literally never met a person who didn’t mention these things as examples of the bad old days, or even some one who thought it made any god damned sense at all.
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That reminded me of my adventures at Philmont when I was a scout.
They had a “red roof inn” pit toilet at every campsite. Red roof inns came in two configurations, euphemistically referred to as “pilot-copilot” (side by side seats, no wall between) and “pilot-bombardier” (back to back, or front to front, we’re not judgmental).
The whole thing always ended up being a Kamikaze run every time. We weren’t allowed to urinate in the pit toilets because it would stir up the shit at the bottom and add ammonia, which apparently made the decomposition less efficient. They always had a mindblowing cloud of biting flies. It was enough to make me just dig my own catholes surreptitiously.
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if she goes into the restroom cannot be offended and you can’t be
offended if she’s greeted there by a 42-year-old man who feels more like
a woman than he does a man.
Actually a very calculated tack. The right has been spewing a mantra for a while, “You don’t have a right not to be offended”. There’s people on the left that think that way, but mostly it’s just missing the point and people on the right trying to justify being pieces of shit.
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They’ve been saying that since the dawn of time.
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My school (Onslow) had two halls/gyms - one had showers, the other didn’t. In form 3 and 4 (ie, when PE was mandatory) no one ever took showers between classes. There wasn’t really time for it anyway. Instead we just went and sat in maths smelling like all the lynx. All of it.
I never saw evidence in the later years that any of the still-doing PE/sports kids were showering either.
It is horrible that Mike Huckabee gets any kind of consideration for office. He’s responsible for the rapes and murders of two women, through his efforts to parole a dangerous rapist, Wayne Dumond, despite pleas from one of the victims. Apparently, the guy had found Jesus while in prison, so that was good enough for Huckabee.
Maybe he can’t?
Just curious: how are those bathrooms labelled?
And, in the years before the legalisation of homosexuality, men’s spaces. At 16, I looked 14 with curly hair. I rapidly learned to avoid public toilets in London.
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I’ll just leave this here:
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My husband is quite conservative, and many of his friends are even more so than him. One of his friends is a lawyer in CT - actually he does a really good thing for the world by prosecuting a lot of child abuse cases, God bless him because I’d be catatonic if I had to read the stuff he does. Anyway, he was chuckling about a memo that went around their office saying they could “use whatever bathroom they wanted.” Because obviously that was opening the door to men walking into the women’s room just to creep about.
Nah, I didn’t think your post specifically was insensitive. It just is important to me that people know Caitlyn’s story, while it follows a fairly typical trans narrative, is very different from many peoples’ (including some friends, immediate family and myself) and that “born female, but in an uncomfortable male body” is just one of many scenarios under the trans umbrella.
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Whilst I agree with your points, I can’t help but think that there is a better way of writing, “Bigendered”; maybe “Bi-gendered” so it looks less Lilliputian.
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And now that you mention it, middle and high school would probably be a lot safer and more comfortable for a lot of kids without the forced collective nudity. Adults can probably handle an open air locker room, but give these damn kids stalls to change in.
ETA: oh, or what @dobby said…
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I’m guessing “bathroom”
