No doubt, and the few who are aim to be the authoritarian regime biting even their most ardent supporters in the ass.
He seems to be the overly-attached VP, and doesn’t believe that it’s over with Trump.
religious freedom
… i.e. “freedom to discriminate against teh gays and also against a secret list of additional bad people”
Some days you are just too much.
Well, not Freedom for everybody, obviously.
What they really meant was only freedom for rich (land-owning) white men!!
It’s partly to counter concerns that there should be limitations on things like oil and coal industries, lumber, factory farming. It puts a religous veneer of virtue on lucrative environmental devastation.
Mike Pence was only 1 year old when John Fitzgerald Kennedy was elected president of the United States but I’m sure he’s heard the stories about how the Republicans tried to disqualify him from running because he was Catholic and subject to Papal authority. Separation of Church and state was one of the Republicans key talking points in the run-up to that election.
Now Mike Pence a self described “born-again evangelical Catholic and Christian” wants to bring the church into politics? WTF is going on inside the Republican party right now?
You will know we have entered the End Times when the NAT-Cs change the name of our nation to “The United Christian States of America~”
Papasan’ism isn’t in there either, damn shame if ya ask me.
It’s not called Papasantería?
I would love to see Pence’s face if someone told him that if So-And-So wins the presidency, he’d have to become a Southern Baptist.
“The Church” is becoming the reference for Christian religious authoritarians who want America to be a fascist theocracy. They have learned in recent years that a shared goal of controlling what Americans are allowed to do overrides the relatively minor theological differences between religions. As long as you seek power, want to use the poor as a group to collectively look down upon and desire to blur the lines between God and rich white people, you are in the group.
No doubt, and the few who are aim to be the authoritarian regime biting even their most ardent supporters in the ass.
Surely. Wolves amongst the empty-headed sheep.
interview on Fox Business,
Redux:
Obviously, I’m not familiar with Fox Business, but why is this on Fox Business? It had nothing to do with business! [400px-GF2_600]
The first clause in the Bill of Rights states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion .”
Oh, whoops, it says “Rights”. No one has those but White, Male, Faux Christian, MAGAts.
They really don’t understand how the separation of church and state is a huge benefit to them.
Or just don’t believe it. The ability of theocrats to delude themselves, despite all evidence and precedent to the contrary, into thinking their specific dogma will remain in control is beyond hubris.
their specific dogma will remain in control is beyond hubris.
This strikes me as a larger issue with them, hubris. They have a very simplistic theology that doesn’t have much nuance, but their views contradict the whole notion of trusting in God, because they believe themselves to be without flaw. It’s very much like the Calvinists who believed that they were god’s elect…
Don’t confuse them with facts - they just get more and more angry and hostile.
Yeah, actively maintaining ignorance of the facts is actually quite important to their worldview. Traditionally this desire to eliminate the church/state separation was fueled by the confidence that locally, at least, their way of thinking was the majority, so they didn’t have to worry about some other religion being imposed on them via the state. But the rise of Trump is powered by the fact that that is simply not true any more, even locally. The problem being, they also can’t acknowledge that entirely, because then it would force them to admit that the whole “stolen election” narrative is actually “we would like to steal the election.” I’m sure they will start admitting that at some point, but they’re not quite there yet.
it’s also what protects their religion from being controlled by the government.
Power mongers never understand this. They never project into a future where the power they wish to consolidate might ever turn against them. The Enlightenment-era thinkers, like the founders of the US understood this, which is why modern democracies are all about distributing power as thinly as possible.
They have learned in recent years that a shared goal of controlling what Americans are allowed to do overrides the relatively minor theological differences between religions
This is a variation on the same problem. These folks fail to grok that once “Christianity” wins, then the factions are gonna turn on each other. History is full of wars fought and genocides carried out over minutiae of which saint said what or who was the son of whom in dusty old poetry books that are probably all translated incorrectly anyway.
He seems to be the overly-attached VP, and doesn’t believe that it’s over with Trump.
It is bizarre how much he’s still backing the people who literally tried to hang him on Jan 6.