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I was talking about the topic. It is once again you who insist in making it about me. You arenât even making an effort to confront me with your opinions about the topic. What is your motivation for trying to make every conversation here into something personal?
I donât mean this as disrespect, but you really donât read my posts very closely. You get between two posters here, and you needlessly paraphrase to each of us what you guess we are really saying to each other. No, I did not infer from Eppy what you did, and no, my implication to them is not what you inferred either. You seem to have a lot of linguistic baggage, but for better or worse, I donât share it with you. I am sorry if you think this makes me an awful or unpleasant person, but there doesnât appear to be anybody forcing you to engage with me.
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Damn fancy people with their booths. They should just do it on the subway like everyone else!
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That college chick got arrested cos she recorded herself doing it in her college library. And my âresearchâ says that there are many more like her, that may or may not have been arrested. Of course, maybe theyâre doing it for the money/views rather than for the love of the art like guys seem to do.
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Please - stop jumping to conclusions about what I say every single time!
I only said âjokeâs on meâ. I neither guessed nor asserted whomeverâs joke or responsibility it might be. Thatâs why I left it ambiguous. Perhaps itâs other peopleâs rhetoric, or evasiveness, or my own lack of self-awareness, or my feeble grasp of language, or maybe they and I are more or less the same person, the same social organism. I honerstly donât know for certain.
Thatâs the paradox of communication relying upon shared meaning, I think it affects everybody. There are no easy ways to overcome it. I think that all people can do to work around it is to be patient when they talk and/or listen. But part of that means not being quick to presume what people might mean. The fact that I lack a lot of shared cultural context probably does make it more difficult for me than for many others. So I just try to take it slowly and not make many guesses. If you think that the lack of shared assumptions makes me rude, then I guess it does. I am sorry. But I have no way to fix it, other than efforts at slow explicit discussion.
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So you have no other way to stop playing calvinball, oter than by playing more calvinball? Sounds like you may think we are all in your calvinabll league. We are not.
If all you can say is that youâre sorry that I made an assumption well, thatâs the community you want. Not the one I want. What you offered is a false apology, and itâs the exact style that I find slimy and destructive to this community.
your intent aside, youâre insulting a lot of people and putting it on them for engaging with you. Thatâs pretty childiish and irresponsible for someone who claims to respect others.
and who claims not to be using this phone booth for his own⌠relief.
Why DOES anyone assume it is mostly guys, indeed.
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Hey all! If there were little little spas in cities such as NY and SF which did erotic massage, do you think they would be popular? It seems like an obvious thing to do, but I never see anything like that.
One idea I have tossed around (sorry!) is an orgasm ambulance service.
Iâd forgotten about her. But was she really a âcollege chick,â or a porn performer acting like a college student?
And as you point out, I think thereâs a very big distinction between a man openly pleasuring himself for others to see because he gets off on making unsuspecting people uncomfortable vs. a woman pleasuring herself (or pretending to pleasure herself) in a place that is public but being careful that only willing viewers can see.
My âOccamâs Razorâ is that people usually masturbate because it is their goal to masturbate, rather than to convince others that this is what they are doing for other obscure reasons. Although I am sure that there probably are occasional exceptions.
The âcontrived performanceâ angle can be a huge regress to explain away anything, Is that person really buying a newspaper right now? Or is it really an exhibit where they are being paid to pretend to buy a newspaper? Where does it end?
Statistically, I guess people in surveys when asked about when they masturbate could be asked something like âHow often do you instead pretend to masturbate for the sake of others?â But my intuition is that this would not represent a large population.
Um, ladies donât need a phone booth to rub one out. Weâre able to be discreet like that.
And âmassage parloursâ already exist in all cities, though in Toronto theyâre being re-branded as âNail Salonsâ and yet donât stock nail polish, funny that!
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Quit trolling already. We are talking about a porn performer who did a webcam show from a library. Thereâs nothing âobscureâ about her reasons for doing it.
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But wasnât that offered as some sort of evidence that real masturbators are supposedly always male?
I donât doubt off-hand the account that you are talking about, but I do doubt that it is representative of women who masturbate generally. That we might not agree does not suggest to me that either of us are driving trollies.
No. You are either driving trollies or simply not very good at following the various threads of a conversation.
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âŚin public sure. But in general? Maybe a little, but I wouldnât say a lot more.
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when you are satisfied, as with most masturbatory acts.
I think itâs more like ⌠dudes are allowed to say they whack it more. Women are not supposed to (mention it or do it). And the repercussions for women so much as mentioning masturbation in mixed company are different. We admit to masturbating and weâre likely to get messages asking âcan I watch/help?â Because weâre looking for attention, clearly!
Itâs not that we ainât doinâ it. Itâs that itâs not in our best interest to admit to it.
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Really? My female friends hold sex-toy parties, on the model of tupperware parties and advertise them on their facebook.
Times may have changed, gentlemen.
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