Ongoing coronavirus happenings

Fucking morons.

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This headline. It hurts me.

From the first sentence of the piece, emphasis mine:

Finland is past the peak of the first wave of coronavirus infections

Just FTR, because it very much fits: Christian Drosten related in the interview-podcast that he is very much expecting the epidemic to change it’s tune. In the beginning - and we are still very much at the beginning, not only in Germany - highly localised clusters occur. Afterwards, a diffusion process sets in, also under the cover of the current sometimes harsh (see: Spain!) measures which ‘mask’ the diffusion process. He is quite certain that widely spread background-level infections are occurring, and compared that really to a physical diffusion process. He expanded on ‘masking’ by current measures explaining that we don’t see the result as such because social distancing is working: while we have a relatively small R0, we would have no strong indication if the diffusion process already took place and localised clusters are no longer the currently prevalent form of the epidemic.

However, when the social distancing stops

I understood that he thus argued that a way forward would be slowly reducing measures and re-instating them (sometimes also introducing stronger measures) - based on the level of detectable background infections happening.

That’s what Pueyo called “hammer and dance”, I think.

(Sidenote: Drosten is also fond of the idea of BT contact tracing apps, which I currently under the impression cannot work because physics and phones. See the other topic.)

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I’m not sure what you mean, I am an American and also lived many years in Great Britain, as far as I know neither country has a strong opinion on Swedish-Norwegian relations.

The relationship between Norway and Sweden has been lopsided since the Kalmar Union in the 14th century, and mainly consisted of Sweden lording it over Norway, until around 40 years ago. The Norwegian coverage of the Swedish response to the virus has been a strange mixture of envy and indignation, but judging from photos of street scenes there isn’t much operational difference between the two.

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Am I wrong in hoping that ‘elective surgeries’ means hip and knee joint replacements, and anything ‘plannable’? Oh glob, I don’t even want to know if I am wrong.

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Based on what my doctor said last week, that seems likely to be what it means.

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Not soon enough, unfortunately.

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Interesting, I have one British and one American parent, and am well aware that Sweden capitulated and Norway fought (one of Sweden’s capitulations was helping the Nazis send troops and armaments into Norway). Memories are short, I suppose, but it was at least important to Brits of my mother’s generation, and known to Americans of my father’s.

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And pacemakers, implantable defibrillators, neuromodulation implants for things like Parkinson’s, etc. Things that aren’t really elective, just not emergency.

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Good and bad news tonight:

The good- Vaccine candidate about to enter human trials in the UK:

The bad- Outbreak and other issues may drive millions into food insecurity this coming year.

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1854: The Oktoberfest is canceled due to a cholera epidemic. In autumn the disease is thought to be defeated. Queen Therese of Bavaria - the festival was once launched in her honor - takes part in a thank-you service. Shortly thereafter, she dies of cholera.

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Yes, well, British opinion of Norway might be higher than their opinion of Sweden, I was referring to the countries opinions of each other. When I lived in E. Yorks. I could pick up the ‘propaganda’ radio stations from both countries, both regularly made pretty rude jokes about the other.

The difference in infection control policy has created some new friction (and a closed border) between the two countries.

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That more true than you might know. ICU’s lose money hand over fist, in-house pediatrics is good PR but makes no money, the only parts that make money are the pharmacy, (sometimes) the lab and the OR’s. Our totally fucked up system relies on surgeries, and especially elective surgeries (because those are pretty much guaranteed to be paid for) to fund the whole shebang. Take those away and, well, you see what is starting to happen.

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Well that was unexpected
 (/s)
Watch for similar patterns elsewhere.

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oh no. don’t let the conspiracy nuts hear that.

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Stranded in brazilian shores.

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Don’t worry, it’s only written down, so they’d have to be able to read.

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There are certainly worse places to be stranded!

I wonder what happened to all of my pictures
first digital camera, but it was almost 20 years ago.

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