Why yes, as a matter of fact, they do. They really are that clueless.
They don’t even see it as an ideology thing, they do this in games as well: if you play a game like Monopoly with them or watch a team sporting event, they will gloat and jeer when they are winning but get all whiny and bitterly complain if the other side even hints at gloating at them.
Also important is that there was a huge spike in women and children or just children crossing the border to escape gang violence, political violence, and starvation that had no family in the United States to place them with resulting in children being detained. Some other context is also needed to remember that when Obama sought funding for the issue Republicans would only approve it if they got to ramrod a lot of other anti-immigrant legislation in with it.
So what Trump is using is indeed the temporary detention facilities at that time that housed the family units that crossed, but this idea that Democrats wanted this even as a temporary solution isn’t accurate even if Obama’s immigration policy was bad.
Yup.
Also important to remember is the USA’s role in creating the violence and poverty they were fleeing. Which has more than a century of thoroughly bipartisan history.
Yeah, it looks like Obama used the camps because of policy failure rather than deliberate planning.
There’s a useful history thread here:
HRC, and all Presidents since Bill Clinton, endorsed a “deterrence” strategy in regards to immigration. In other words, deliberately make immigration as difficult and dangerous as possible, on the theory that this will reduce the numbers of incoming people.
It does not work. It’s also murderously inhumane; all those bodies in the desert are the direct result of it.
I think Trump’s currently using them as a bludgeon against the Republican congress. They refused to pass the immigration “reforms” he wanted (most likely because they knew he’d blame them for the problems while taking credit for any perceived successes and crowing about his fulfillment of campaign promises) so he’s instructed his border droogs to follow existing law with “zero tolerance”.
No war but the class war, sure.
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But y’gotta fight smart. At the moment, the money controls the guns; violence is their preferred battlefield. We don’t have to go along with that choice of venue.
Strikes, disruption, sabotage. Non-compliance. Grind the economy to a halt, make it impossible for business as usual to continue.
It doesn’t take as many people as you might think.
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Of course it will not work as many, perhaps most, coming from the South have nothing from where they left; the dead aren’t seen, but like the dronings, provide a wonderful tough defending the homeland vibe. Barf.
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