Most vehicle manufacturers try to find ways to make their products less lethal, even when used irresponsibly.
Those Texans must be pretty dumb then. A guy with a 50 round magazine will pretty much universally lose to the SWAT team who tend to have thousands of rounds at their disposal, significant training, and the ability to teargas you out of your hiding spot. Good luck with your gas mask. Letâs see how youâre doing when you havenât been able to take it off for 48 hours and havenât had any water.
The Banana suite strikes again!
From August 18. 2010
Carlton Jeffery Kohnert, 21, who is apparently in the Marine Reserve, was arrested for investigation of reckless endangerment, aiming or discharging a weapon and indecent exposure, said Clallam County Sheriffâs Sgt. Randy Pieper.
Police believe Kohnert â fully costumed in the yellow banana costume â exposed himself to a woman at the Port Angeles Wendyâs restaurant and drove through Four Seasons Ranch brandishing a shotgun.
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Those Texans must be pretty dumb then. A guy with a 50 round magazine will pretty much universally lose to the SWAT team who tend to have thousands of rounds at their disposal, significant training, and the ability to teargas you out of your hiding spot. Good luck with your gas mask. Letâs see how youâre doing when you havenât been able to take it off for 48 hours and havenât had any water.
Yeah like those dummies back in the 1770âs. You might remember the 13 colonies that lacked a professional army or navy. Ragtag bands of men lightly armed, with little training, and usually did not have uniforms. Taking on the largest superpower in the world. What a bunch of idiots!
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Thatâs both a stawman and a red herring. If you want people to take you seriously, Iâd encourage you to argue against the point presented. Instead of conflating a single person with a national militia.
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âŚfighting against a volunteer army deployed a thousand miles away from home among a citizenry that hated themâŚ
Okay, that was me that time.
Is that in A-minor, or F-sharp?
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If you want people to take you seriously donât hid behind misdirected logical fallacy. I spoke directly to your point. You described âTexansâ as dumb for believing their guns might protect them against a larger force. I gave a direct example illuminating your logic as flawed.
Fine then. I didnât make the point clearly enough for you. I donât dispute that a militia with enough manpower and firepower can launch an insurgency that will give a town, county or state a run for itâs money. What I meant was: If a person owns an AK thinking it will protect them from, say, the Austin PD, theyâre pretty much wrong.
ETA:
Since it would appear that you are offended I said Texans are dumb, let me clarify that too.
I honestly think that ANY individual who thinks they can hold their own against a cityâs police department is pretty dumb. Not just Texans. Thereâd be no point to having police if they could all be killed by a single gunman every time.
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Ah, when you put it like that I totally agree.
@Bobo
I didnât intend to say that all gun owners are one thing or another. Iâm only sharing my personal experience as someone who has live in Texas for a good part of their life. I would think it intellectually dishonest to pretend that these peoples fear is not a very real thing and more widespread than most would like to think.
Most gun owners I speak to down here are very concerned about the government âtaking our guns awayâ as well as home protection and the protection of livestock. Iâm not going to bother trying to cite a source for this one. Come down to Texas and have a talk with folk at the gun range. The discussions you can have there donât make it in to internet articles for me to cite you.
Then there is the election buyers. Each time there is an election there is a run on gun purchasing and bullets. Popular ammo are often sold out in the weeks leading up to the presidential election and thatâs not limited to Texas http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/25/ammo-maker-ammo-shortage-fueled-by-rumors-and-conjecture/
My guess is that these purchases arenât about tactical shooting, cowboy shooting competition, hunting, or home defense. Iâd think it a safe bet that these purchases are about fear of the government.
The point of my post was in response to those who asked why anyone would need a 50 round drum mag or an âassault weaponâ for target shooting or hunting. Thatâs why I said âone of the big reasonsâ instead of âthe only reasonâ and why I wondered about the idea that gun magazine capacity discussions always seem to include the old âwhy would they need that for hunting or target shooting?â argument as if that was the only reason to own a gun.
@LDoBe
I wonât say we Texans are the smartest bunch. Remember Waco? I do. I also remember why the ATF showed up in the first place. The Davidians and Branch Davidians were having automatic rifle battles with each other. A 50 round drum mag is just the tip of the iceberg.
We have folk down here with anti aircraft guns, tanks, RPGs, 50 cal brownies, and on and on. Itâs no joke. There are those down here just waiting for the government to try to take away their weapons.
This is why I am so against overturning the 2nd amendment. From what Iâve seen, the loss of human life would be staggering.
I have to wonder if some of those guys arenât secretly a little disappointed every day the government doesnât come for their guns.
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When I think of the âtake up arms against the governmentâ crowd in the US today, especially given its agenda and geographic distribution, I think of the 1860s, not the 1770s, and I root for the government.
No one said anything about taking up arms against the government. The âagendasâ that make you think of the 1860âs are mostly political wedge issues used to divide the populist. So go ahead and root for your government. Iâll be rooting for my friends, neighbors, and fellow countrymen.
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Is that rhetoric supposed to make this sound less like the 1860s? I feel like youâre mostly reinforcing my point.
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I disagree. I think it is kind of adorable - kind of like when a Chihuahua thinks it is as big as a Newfoundland. Oh they yap and yap and yap and sometimes nip at people and make a lot of noise, but the truth is, they just donât know what real fear is because of their overly coddled life and/or lack imagination.
Take away their soft bed though (and their sports cable package) and they would crumble.
According to Wikipedia:
The economy of Texas is one of the largest and most rapidly growing economies in the United States
If that is dysfunction, sign me up for two in my state!
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My apologies then. I took the question âwhy do peopleâ as a question referencing people in general (in this case gun owners), and wanted to point out that there are a lot of us who like target shooting (only) or âplinkingâ, or hunt, or some other sort of relatively innocuous shooting sport, and are not at all involved with the testosterone/paranoid dream of fighting off an unjust govt. paramilitary force single handed.
Maybe itâs a Texas (or similar location) thing, but Iâve met a lot of blue state liberal democrat types (myself included) that donât buy into the âObamaâs coming for your gunsâ paranoia. That being said, weâre still having problems getting some calibers (.22lr in particular) at decent prices because of crazy a-holes stockpiling it or buying it to re-sell at inflated prices.
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