In any sensible world, this deal would now be dead in the water.
However…
We’re still slowly sliding towards crashing out, because of utter intransigence, incompetence and political deadlock.
We need someone with a plan.
We need an alternative to the slow, inevitable car crash that’s unfolding in front of us.
We need Leadership, or at least a second referendum.
Actually, never mind, that. What I really need now is Bugs Bunny…
In my (limited) understanding from reading the UK press the choices are:
Much as I’d like another referendum with the actual facts in front of us, I feel like that’s unlikely given the uniquely shitty government and opposition that the UK has today. I think Corbyn is as much, if not more, to blame for this fucking fiasco as the Tories are
I know. If Labour was still led by sociopathic right wing war criminal Tony Blair this would have gone away long ago.
Personally I blame your sick, perverted newspapers and the endless sewer of lies and xenophobia they spout.
Thanks for pointing this out. I am one of the millions of UK citizens living overseas who were denied our chance to vote on this - by design, as it’s clear which way most of us would have voted
The timeline I looked at a month or so ago suggested that the EU would probably be willing to do a 50 or so day extension for something like a new referendum with remain as an option.
Going past that runs into the EU parliamentary elections (I presume the trouble there happens some time before the actual election day) and they really want the UK in or out before that.
73 days to the brexit date now.
Hey, you take that…
Oh, fine.
Please don’t put words in my mouth - you don’t know anything about me.
I literally would not piss on Tony Blair if he were on fire. And Corbyn is fast catching up with him - I shake my head at the Labour Party which seems to have elected some unbelievable dolts to their leadership.
I’m done with the lot of them - proportional representation and green party if I ever get my vote back
It would be even more interesting if Scotland had another referendum. There does not seem to be a possible good outcome to any of this.
I wasnt. I was saying my own words. I pointed out to someone months ago that if Blair was leader of Labour this would have gone away long ago and got the reply "you mean the sociopathic war criminal? ". Well yeah, but the competent sociopathic… Never mind.
That fucker had style.
But then people still say that about the Nazis…
This is true fact.
The majority of the UK public have switched off, and who can blame them.
It’s a good demonstration of why government by plebiscite doesn’t work in a large population representative democracy.
All that being said, we (the UK) still have to find a way out of this God-Awful mess. Unless you want chaotic No Deal Brexit, of course, when you just need to wait.
At least if it comes down to street-fighting, our population isn’t tooled up like the USA.
Sadly, Remain is likely to prevail in a revolutionary mode because Leave voting is strongly correlated to the over 65 population. I don’t fancy my parents’ chances in a full-on “riot for democracy” scenario.
This just in
Boris Johnson , the Brexiter former foreign secretary, told the BBC that the result of the vote gave Theresa May a “massive mandate” to go back to Brussels and renegotiate.
There’s not enough facepalm gifs in the world for this.
I see, thanks for breaking it down. I guess in that case Corbyn is counting on the confidence motion failing… Seem’s a little risky. What a mess.
It’s just the kind of support she needs to get back in there and negotiate like a boss.
Big fucking /S
“My own people just told me to fuck off, so… I can has gifts maybe?”
I don’t think plebiscite cannot work in a democracy, we’ve just had a couple of citizens assembly recommended referendums. But you do need a process to get to a text and then a bounded enforceable text to vote on. Not some vague idea that encompasses legion.
And no I don’t want a no deal crash out because we are fucked when that happens as this Tory brinkmanship and refusal to take responsibility make increasingly likely.
“How d’ya like me NOW?”
Entire EU: “We still don’t.”
“You’re still here?”
Of course it’s a bad idea! Brussels doesn’t want to wait for another UK government, and they certainly don’t want to renegotiate yet again.
It’s only a good idea if you want the UK to fumble it’s last two months before we crash out with No Deal.
I have to think over in the Kremlin they are just exhausted from doing happy dances as the western democracies self-immolate. WTF have we loosed?
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
ETA: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-coming
To give correct credit.
