If I could change my account name, I would.
Iām so disappointed right now.
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It would be great if your attitude were more common.
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I should perhaps have said that its not my legal name, real or no.
I have a big mouth and in decades past, Iāve had at least one manager stick heir nose in my non-work related business. Iām sorry but if a coworker isnāt complaining about it at work, I donāt see how it matters.
The PR thing is a fuzzy line and this guy is a bad poster child but basically people are celebrating internet witch hunts and feeling smug because this guy is such an obvious racist. What is he was a communist or is pro-Isis or even loudly pro-life and demonstrating? It is all a slippery slope to pat ourselves on the back about someone getting fired for unpopular but not illegal views expressed on their own time.
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Iād retain them. And promptly make their life a living hell. Iād ensure micro management of be worst kind. Write ups for the simply silliest and most minor of infractions. By the time I was done he or she would be so frustrated they would either quit. Or perhaps ask āwhat did I doā to which I would reply āyou were a reprehensible douche bag and a waste of oxygen as a human being. Are you ready to reconsider the path you were on?ā And hope they learned something.
People donāt improve if theyāre ostracized.
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Plus letās not forget that he was harassing innocent strangers (who were being amazingly polite with him, I might add). This isnāt just him doing something in the privacy of his own home, heās going out of his way to make other people miserable.
Itās not our fault that he canāt even keep to basic rules of society that kindergartners can handle just fine.
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True. There are no absolutes. In general, though. I am the last one who thinks anything should be black and white/always or never.
Iāll reiterate my comment on another post. Should he be fired from a job for what he says on his persona time. No.
But his employer should make his work a living hell. THAT is completely within their rights and acceptable punishment for being a douche canoe.
I doubt you are monkey. Are you at least in space?
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If I was going to do that, Iād just ask him to leave. The trick to countering an asshole is not to join him in being a prick. Plus it would be a lot of work. Micromanagement is a real pain in the ass.
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Source and method they used to arrive tat this conclusion?
Hmm - wonder if that red in the center is KC.
Here ya go!
Thanks!!!
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No, I asked you:
if you were the owner of the landscaping company with a culturally diverse pool of clients and employees, how would you have handled this employee?
And youāve made clear youāre not willing to answer. Okay, fine.
I understand you manage six people and you object to the landscaping companyās failure to observe and respect the bright line you believe exists between acceptable behavior in the workplace and elsewhere, but the simple fact of the matter is if your employee proudly and publicly boasts about how hard he works at his job while using racial slurs to harass people, well, people are going to ask/find out where he works, at which point heās jeopardizing your company, your existing client relationships, your future business, and exposing you to employee litigation. When Mr. Pisone decided to use racial slurs and harass a group of peaceful protestors, he became a huge liability for the landscaping company for which he worked and they were absolutely correct to immediately fire him. Mr. Pisone brought this on himself.
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Thereās a couple of things going on here:
1.- Iāve always found it fascinating how easy it seems to be to terminate an employee in the US, that employees can be fired for any reason unrelated to their ability to do their job and that everybody seems to be ok with this.
It seems to me that this is only an extreme example of an unjust system where workers are a liability more than an asset.
2.- People might feel that using an unfair system to punish an unfair act that would otherwise go unpunished is better than nothing. While I donāt know why this couldnāt be argued to be a hate crime, I do understand how and why it wouldnāt reach a court of law. So whatās left for people who now feel vexed and without recourse? Rage. āIts fine cause its legal, and besides, heās a bigot.ā The corollary that hasnāt been expressed so far is āBecause he deserves itā. It will be, but only once every other logically fallacious resource has been shot down.
Its easier to swallow that this is unjust if we reframe this as being punished for being a bigot while poor, after all Donald Sterling sufered far less than this asshole will and can be argued to have caused much more damage.
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I completely agree under lesser circumstances. But in this case. You as the employer could do way more to make this particular brand of assholeās life miserable. And completely within legal boundaries too.
I guess my perspective is simply that firing him is easy sure. But at some point we need to start teaching these pricks a lesson.
