Neat! What is it that you are conserving, and how is Trump going to help you to do that?
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We have the best Trumpspeech parodies. Yuge.
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You know, if expanding your mind is a goal, there’s something you can take that will help you with that. 
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The better news is, eventually they die off.
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Too bad that comes from the very old school version of conservative… i.e. change isn’t bad but maybe we shouldn’t test how deep the water is by jumping in head first conservative. Nothing at all to do with what passes for the current definition of conservative.
I find I am getting more socialist/liberal as I get older.
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Nope. If anything, I think I’m getting more liberal as I get older. And that theory really doesn’t fit my hero, Bernie.
Though I will grant you, there are certain things we Happy Mutants tend to agree on. But if you think we always reinforce each other, well, you might want to read more threads before making up your mind on that. Try any gun control thread, for example.
And by the way, I have listened to what Trump says. And that’s why I could never support the man. I’ve heard exactly zero about how he intends to “make America great again.” I’ve heard plenty of racist comments, sexist slurs, and empty promises though. It’s particularly distressing to hear that he doesn’t understand why we aren’t using our nuclear weapons. But hey, you’re entitled to like whoever you choose. I’m entitled to disagree.
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Wow…you have no idea how this sort of story/writing reads to Trump-opposing liberals like us. You people live in a little bubble, a little echo chamber. It’s sad, really. Do you ever - ever - consider the other side’s arguments and viewpoints? Probably not, right? It’s more fun to post holier-than-thou messages with absolutely no justification for your position. Well, continue. Nothing I could say would change anything. Maybe someday you will expand your mind just a tad. The good news for us is that as time goes on, the most conservative people die off, and their children are more liberal than they were at the same age. Wisdom of youth.
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40+… still not feeling it.
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Oi!
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I’m going to guess … white privilege.
But she probably wouldn’t call it that.
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Have you ever looked at your tiny hands? Really looked at them?
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I considered them for long enough to work out that Trumpism was an existential threat toward people like me.
I read history books, I know what “expanding” your mind to accepting the likes of Trump leads to.
I am glad to be following in the footsteps of Tony Benn and doing the opposite. At this point if I became more conservative I would be on the far left of the Democrats.
Can we stop with this bullshit. Hillary is a conservative (She’s the status quo candidate). Trump is a textbook fascist.
I have only two words to say to Trump and his supporters - ¡No pasarán!
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If there were anything cogent there, I’d examine them. So far, it’s a word salad consisting of xenophobia, open racism and demagoguery. There’s no there there.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! No. Over 40 and getting “lefty”-er by the year. At this rate, I’ll be a communist by the time I retire from work.
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Trump wants to conserve white people and their hold on political power… duh! 
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It is sort of amusing, in a black-comedy/horror train wreck sort of way, to see the dawning look of realization on the few true fiscal conservatives who just refused to believe the truth of their party.
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No one cares.
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But what about the impending take over of American street corners with taco trucks?
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When criticizing others it’s best to not do the same thing you claim they’re doing. To be clear, instead of jumping to the conclusion that the people you’re addressing never consider “the other side” you could have asked and waited for an answer.
Do you ever consider alternative arguments and viewpoints?
[Citation needed]
Also needed: a definition of “conservative”. People I know who describe themselves as “conservative” tend to read the first chapter of the Bible literally, oppose same-sex marriage, think climate change is a myth…I could go on but I think I’ve made it clear such people are anything but wise.
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Here you go:
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Yep! I’ve examined them, and found that the Tea Party is pretty much the resurgence of the same xenophobic nativism as the Know-Nothing Party of the 1840s and 1850s. They don’t stand for anything beyond their own petty interests and fears. Trump’s ascendance has taken that unhealthy mix and has added nothing concrete to it (beyond the infamous and implausible Wall™), and is essentially playing from the fascist playbook at this point, which is something that the Tea GOP was already primed to follow.
Nope! We spend a great deal of time on here and elsewhere examining the GOP’s arguments and viewpoints, and have found them to be full of double standards, compartmentalized thinking, xenophobia, intolerance, reactionary thinking, kneejerk submission to authority figures, tribalism, white supremacy, promises of violence, lack of respect for the rule of law, mythologized and incorrect history, and a staunch refusal to acknowledge reality, and utterly lacking in virtue, wisdom, insight, understanding, or decency.
Okay! It’s better to laugh than to cry, afterall, when a country that has such high ideals contained within its founding documents falters and falls into fascism.
Incorrect! You could speak to the other people in your social circle and say things like “I was wrong,” and “I don’t want to hate people because they’re not like me,” and “why do we need to build a wall?” and “can we try to act as Jesus instructed us to and be kind and loving to one another?”
You could say things like that and potentially make massive changes.
Alright, I’ll bite. Could you please suggest one to three specific policies, concepts, or ideological principles that you wish for us to reexamine from first principles and with an open mind, and to accept or reject on those and only those basis?
As people get older, they do tend to get more resistant to change and new concepts, that is indeed backed up by research. However, kindness, decency, understanding, empathy, equality, and charity are not new ideas. Wisdom is looking at past experiences and past history and learning from those experiences in order to have greater understanding and insight into the problems of today, which is not the sort of thing that Der Trumper offers. (Bernie, in contrast…)
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