Respecting the MAGAs

Have him sign a DNR and move on to the next patient.

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True…it’s like Ruben Bolling isn’t even trying anymore

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What are the valid conservative attitudes that you think they advanced by putting Trump in office?
Everyone brings up abortion, but we know how to reduce abortion, and it’s not by making it illegal, it’s by improving access to reproductive care and sex Ed. So if people who voted on that issue actually gave a fuck, they’d be voting democratic, not republican.
So I’m interested in what valid, conservative attitudes you’re thinking of. Because, of the Trump voters I know, some are somewhat intelligent, but none are what I would consider “thoughtful.”

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This oughta be “good…”

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I’ll settle for “pseudo good.”
:wink:

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I look forward to the day; not too far off, when Tom the Dancing Bug will be satire again and not reportage. Oh, come that glorious day!

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The assumption that MAGAs are stupid is the generous one. Giving them the benefit of the doubt.
If a thoughtful, intelligent person nonetheless does something evil, like say, vote for an obvious cartoon villain who promises from the gate to do crimes if elected, that’s worse. Can’t you see how that’s worse?

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Quite.

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Some of them are not even conservative by conservative standards. The Lincoln Project is a bunch of neoCons that hate his isolationism. A lot of moneyCons on Wall Street hate his brain-dead protectionism. Now both groups hate these positions for the wrong reasons (basically they interfere with the gravy train), but they’re coming at them from the conservative viewpoint that’s been the standard since the end of WWII

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Yeah, I don’t expect a logical response from the person I was responding to. I don’t know that there even is one. You see so many MAGAts with their “America first” rhetoric waving American flags that were made in China, driving cars made in Japan, and buying clothes made in Indonesia or Vietnam.
Fiscally, this administration has been a disaster for farmers and fisher-people.
It seems like any purported “policy” reason is really a veiled form of racism or misogyny or other sort of bigotry.

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I wonder what these dying patients’ family members and friends think about Covid-19 at such times.

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They may be intelligent but they aren’t discerning. I also dispute that they are thoughtful, at least deeply so. I present as evidence the huge number of people that voted for dRumpf after he lied, killed by proxy and blatantly gaslighted them for 4 entire years.
Any other conclusion is equivalent to saying Mussolini was a great leader because he made the trains run on time.

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I think this is the even more relevant person if you’re talking about intelligent “real” conservatives supporting “their guy” despite him being a fascist

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My very rough “math”:

In 2008, Obama won the popular vote by almost 10M.
In 2016, Obama won the popular vote by 5M (and that was after being stymied for four years straight 24/7 by the GOP).

So far, Biden is up by almost 6M. I believe he is well aware that his ‘fig leaf’ can have a chance at only reaching the **4M who voted for Obama in 2008.

**Perhaps not too far gone.

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I would suggest that we set up a remote island to use as a leper colony.
Shemya Alaska on the Aleutian chain would work quite well for this.

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Small nitpick: by 2016 Obama had been stymied for 6 years by the republican congress. I remember that first 2 years of his administration and how hard he tried to reach some compromise, and seeing that opportunity slip away, and never come back.

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So Rs have written off Ds, so Ds may as well write off Rs? Total ideological war?

Doesn’t sound like a sustainable arrangement. But I confess I don’t know to bring about reconciliation.

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