Restaurant freakout in Santa Monica, California

I feel like that was pretty much the reaction of the couple… WTF just happened?! Until she tried to get in his face, then I could see him start to peel at the gloves. And as for the mentally ill question, I’m not so sure that recognizing that line and stepping back from it is any sort of indicator of true derangement.

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Well, what else did she expect them to be doing in a “poke shop”?

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You’re right, and I was being flippant.
The lack of teaching civility to the children seemed to happen at the same time we started rewarding them for existing. It seems that many of them use reality TV stars as role models, and feel they can do whatever they want without consequences.
It’s a generational thing, and I’m just a cranky old lady, expecting niceties that have long since passed away from daily behavior.

To be fair to the youths… I blame the parents. Its not the kids that want a trophy for showing up, its the parents who want their kids to win trophies.

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Your statements remind me of my mother, who is uncivil to most people she meets in a day, but cloyingly sweet to a few during those moments when she wants someone to do something for her.

Of course she agrees with you that anyone younger than she is thinks they’re perfect merely for existing, and have the worst role models, and feel they can do whatever they want without consequences. She’ll tell you all about it while insulting you too, and never notice that no one in younger generations ever treats anyone as badly as she does.

I’m a cranky old lady who’s sick of the claim that the younger generations are so much worse than we are. No, they’re not.

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As someone who spent 10+ years teaching I can confirm that this is VERY accurate.

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We now have parents calling professors to complain about their child/students treatment/mark/etc… AT UNIVERSITY. We have to actively police Orientation during Frosh week to keep parents OUT of the halls. Go. Go away. Go home! You did your job, now let the kids go! Its maddening.

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I can’t relate at all. My parents and I were not even in contact when I was in college. That is almost preferable to this madness… almost.

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We had a parent show up accompanying a new doctoral student, clearly with the intent of interrogating the professor to make sure that he was an adequate supervisor for his precious baby. He’d flown to Australia from America to do so.

She was very nearly sent straight home as a result.

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​It genuinely depends upon my mood at the time; I could see myself just laughing at someone like that, but on the wrong day I could see the situation going terribly awry.

​Well, I’m not old yet; but I can be pretty damn cranky and I agree with you and @MissyPants​;

If anyone wants to bitch and whine about younger generations first really they might want to ask themselves who raised those generations?

Long story short; if today’s posterity is lacking, then it means that as a society we have failed them.

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I think I told my Mom I was going to post-secondary some time in … August? “Oh by the way, I start classes in a couple weeks” - she was not a part of the process at all. Now I get parents of grade 11 kids calling me asking what classes they need to make their kids take next year to ensure they’ll get in.

You know whats depressing? Talking with a 15 year old about future job prospects and salary levels. I just want to shake them and tell them its going to be ok!

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Of course. How’d I guess?

Who’s “she”? The parent or the child?

If it’s the parent, then don’t even think about it, get the parent the fuck out of there.

If it’s the child, well… don’t punish them for their parents’ actions, but this doesn’t bode well for their ability to adjust.

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Female PhD student, male parent.

And, yeah; the main reason she wasn’t booted was the thought that people shouldn’t be punished for the misbehaviour of their parents.

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I wouldn’t boot her, but assuming she was accepted as a student, I would be very wary of her mental health.

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My wife worked at a dental office that is located in the middle of the Amazon “campus”. She frequently had Amazon employees mom’s making the appointment, coming to the visits and speaking for the 20 plus year old’s as if they were still 9 years old.

Not all or even a majority of course but enough that it was noteworthy. To be fair she has worked at many offices and she said that the Amazon employees were some of the nicest patients she has ever worked with. The helicopter parents not so much.

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I taught drama to elementary kids for a few years so I got both the regular entitled parents and the Stage Parents ™ which is a whole 'nother circle of hell. How dare you not cast my precious baby in the lead role even though she hates this class, can’t memorize lines, and only shows up one or two times a week because I enrolled her in soccer at the same time! You must be a RACIST!

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Her mental health was fine.

Her ability to not be a self-centred sod, not so much. Her unpleasantness contributed to the events that saw one of the other grad students spend a month as a psych inpatient.

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I don’t think the younger generations are any worse than the older generations, just… very different. It’s always been that way.

This

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Huh?

That’s fucked up.

Now I definitely think that my estrangement from my parents in my teens and early 20s was a good thing.

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FFabian – Not insinuating that international tourists are crazy, if that was the argumentative path you were hoping to travel today. Cheers.

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