As I was getting ready to leave this morning, I heard a clip of the comment. To me, it sounded like she said “She burns fat, and then she uses that ash to create a perfect smoky eye.” I thought that was not cool, whoever the target was. Then I read the transcript, and thought it was perfect - yes, she does burn “facts”.
Then I started thinking about why I got it wrong, and realized that the clip ended right after “smokey eye” and left out the “maybe it’s lies” part that would have given some context. I wonder if that clip was purposely made to be misinterpreted.
My son is in 3rd grade. This is the year they all learn to swear. Adults do no service to children in ignoring reality, the best we can do is teach them when and where they can swear without getting into a pile of trouble.
@awesum1075atl: Sorry, but there’s not enough money on earth that could be paid to me to intentionally watch The View. The constitution applying to all Americans may be an unacceptable concept to right-wingers, but it’s all that keeps their Tyranny of the Minority alive.
@generic_name and everyone else who picked up on this: It’s not offensive, it’s true. And it’s worse, a judge just decided that the State doesn’t have to provide bottled drinking water to the affected homes that still haven’t had their service lead replaced. The service lead replacement work will not be completed until the fall of 2020.
Definitely I didn’t mean to suggest it was offensive that she said that, I meant to say that it was the harshest criticism she leveled, and it was directed at everyone. If people walk away from that routine feeling bad and they feel bad for any reason other than the lack of clean water in Flint, they’ve got their priorities screwed up.
It’s time to suck up the insults and go save some people’s lives.
Agree on mocking disabled person. No disagreement on inappropriateness of Presidential behavior. I would not try to say they are morally equivalent to swearing. While the audience matters, the surroundings do too. You don’t, as a parent (I have been one), sit in the stands at your kid’s little league game and scream at the umpire that they are a "fucking blind moron”. Sure, the audience is the adult umpire, but the surroundings are much more diverse. I think the problem with FB is everyone friends everyone and their kids too (okay, not me, since I deleted my FB over a year ago, but it is true of many). I do think teaching respect starts with little things, and I’d rather talk about someone’s behavior objectively than call them a name. But again, I am not defending the president (and I do certainly appreciate the civil nature of our discourse!)
I am the last person to defend Sarah or any of the gargoyles that grovel at the supreme Turnip’s feet. I did not find her ‘routine’ offensive or shocking, I found her routine poorly delivered, non humorous and lacked the ‘friendly banter between old friends’ bit. Was bored silly waiting for the punch lines.
Yeah, all this talk about adults not swearing around children seems so funny to me. I remember being a kid and thinking I couldn’t swear around adults.
Is this just one of those things like discussing sex… it’s fine, but you don’t do it with your parents?
And that was not a joke. (Well, it was a joke, but like many good jokes, it was all 100% true)
And that’s not what @anon61833566 did remotely. It was on FB, not in front of the team.
And saying fuck or asshole isn’t necessarily disrespectful, especially when it’s accurate.
I would be inclined to agree, but sometimes, people are being assholes.
That’s fine. Our point is that the things he’s done, as an incredibly powerful and privileged person, is much more important to criticize. Really, calling out @anon61833566 for what they said made no sense in the course of this conversation, because they aren’t one of the most powerful and visible human beings on the planet.
I’m wondering if the WHPC dinner is going to go on hiatus, or new management; it seems too weird that they keep having these issues. Remember Colbert’s fearless roast of Bush right to his face?
Either they knew exactly what Michelle Wolf was going to do but threw her under the bus anyway like chickenshits, or they were utterly ignorant of what she usually does in her act, which makes them fools.
or differ on what “respectful” is to begin with. I have an uncle (late 60’s) who believes I (mid 40’s) should shut my mouth and be not seen or heard around his presence. My reply to him is “Get over yourself. The only thing you have over me is age. And I am not bowing to you just because you were born before me at this stage in our lives.”