I’m glad you changed your mind. From my perspective, I don’t care how someone else is using the toilet in the next stall as long as they don’t leave a mess 
I’d like to point out it must be really uncomfortable for her friend to use the men’s restroom. Far more uncomfortable than a stall neighbor who might using the toilet differently. Many teenage boys are uncomfortable using the men’s restrooms at school, so it’s gotta be a whole lot worse for a trans woman.
I think this is part of why trans women catch so much shit. People, women included, scrutinize and judge the appearance of women more than the appearance of men. This leads to people noticing things some trans women, because of choice or money restrictions, can’t change about their bodies (broader jaws, adam’s apple, etc). Also, conventional standards of beauty tend to emphasis traits a lot of trans women (and women generally) can’t achieve.
Also, a woman’s body is seen as more integral to her identity than a man’s body to his. So if her body isn’t feminine enough, she must not be feminine.
She was allowed to use a faculty restroom where there was just a single toilet, but the school is large so it was inconvenient for her a lot of the time to get to the one bathroom.
I realized how stupid it was after I was in the situation myself. I think everyone would get used to it. Who cares what someone is doing in the next stall?
This might be shocking but people with penises can and do sit to pee when they want.
Besides, there are stalls with doors. By that logic you’d be uncomfortable with someone who had an ostomy bag and was using the restroom because they traditionally stand to empty them.
Who cares what people are doing in the next stall to relieve themselves? They just want to pee without being attacked.
Good, i’m glad to hear the school made some kind of accommodation.
Yes, i agree. It was dumb of me to think it would be any kind of problem.
I think they wrote it- Assassins that is. (discovered that yesterday as I was looking stuff up about them)
Absolutely, and thank you. Our culture has an inherently ‘macho’ or dominant expectation of men; for a man to display any feminine aspects – even things like doing ‘homemaker’ sorts of tasks around the house – is considered odd. The idea of abandoning or diminishing the need for a penis is the ultimate in blasphemy for many people.
Nerd discussion topic in honor of the Wachowskis’ biggest success to date: When a post-op (is that still the right term?) Trans person gets unplugged from the Matrix, what kind of body do they find themselves in?
(Discussion topic intended respectfully, or at least in the campy spirit of sci-fi nerdom)
It depends.
Some people don’t think of themselves as trans when they are post-op, they got a medical problem fixed and don’t want to be thought of having it for the rest of their lives.
The Fail isn’t the Dirty Digger - it’s the Scum and Faux News.
The Fail is edited by Paul Dacre, who (at least according to Private Eye) has a habit of raging through the newsroom like an oozlum bird, throwing shit and imprecations in all directions. This could just be bait for one of the Eye’s regular libel suits, but he hasn’t sued them for it yet.
It was founded by Lord Rothermere and his brother, who was friends with Hitler and Mussolini, and whilst he takes a hands-off approach to editing, the paper strongly supported them in the 30s.
The bathroom bills baffle me, because I don’t think they’ve really thought through how they’re going to enforce that shit. I know trans women who look far more “feminine” than I do. I’ve got a prominent Adam’s apple, a low-pitched voice, and I’m cisgendered as all heck. The idea that these bill are just going to “catch” trans people in the “wrong” bathroom is preposterous. There’s a genuine slippery slope here.
The Sun were worse than the Mail for trans outing in the 80s, and let’s not forget the Sunday People’s outing of April Ashley (a little reminder that it wasn’t just the Tory supporting newspapers who did it). But it was the Sun who would go that step further and out non-famous people who were trans.
The Daily Mail aside, I’m glad I was too young to have to deal with that. I know someone who changed their name three times in order to stay one step ahead of the tabloid scum.
Do people who pass bathroom bills have single gender bathrooms in their houses?
I really can’t understand why anyone would care who else is in the room. Has there ever been a movement (heh!) to keep gay people out of ‘straight’ bathrooms?
Well, as long as members of an oppressed minority have to live in fear of arrest, exposure, and being publicly stigmatized as some kind of sex offender then the bill will have accomplished its intended purpose.
One of the stated reasons for keeping gay people out of the military was that they share shower facilities, so that’s kind of close I guess. (Why someone trained to charge into combat should be terrified by the idea of showering near a gay guy is beyond me.)
What’s with the US focus on restroom stalls in the transgender issue? What are you doing in the restrooms over there? Some naked frolickin’ or what? I’ve never seen another dudes penis when using the mens restroom … and I imagine it isn’t any different in the women variant.
what are you talking about. this never happenend! never!
I think the issue in public restrooms is that there are stalls. At home, it’s a one at a time situation.
At your house, maybe. It’s a rare day that I’m not sharing part of my time in the bathroom with either the SO or the boy. They just barge in. Especially lately, with one of the bathrooms also being the place where dishes are washed.
