It is not about what they look like it is about their actions which were the misuse of injectable fillers.
Gender is not relevant.
It is not about what they look like it is about their actions which were the misuse of injectable fillers.
Gender is not relevant.
Why did these women use fillers? Because the implicit and explicit message of society, as communicated in advertising, fashion, mass media, and a host of other ways, is that a woman’s worth derives solely from whether or not she can match the (often unrealistic) commonly accepted standards of beauty. The use of fillers (effective or not) was an attempt to conform to that standard.
So how is gender not relevant to a situation which came about due to societal gender “norms”?
And, as @anon61221983 and @ClutchLinkey said so elequently above, seeing so many Mutants casually judge them by that very “beauty” standard not only demonstrates how pervasive those “norms” are, but serves to (unwittingly, perhaps) reinforce them.
And that’s damn disappointing.
Except that there were discussions on their looks.
It absolutely is. It’s at the heart of this discussion. You can pretend like it’s not, but it very much is.
And let’s not forget, talking about the bodies of the women who did this is also very much misogyny. WE ARE NOT THE SUM OF OUR PHYSICAL APPEARANCE. Full stop. The problem is not how these women looked, or how some men here felt “turned off” by their appearances. It was very much WHAT they did. It is STRAIGHT UP dehumanizing for the focus to be on the women’s bodies at all. It’s objectifying. And people might feel justified because of WHAT they did, but that’s just straight bullshit. If people can’t focus on women’s actions without devolving into any number of just shitty misogynistic tropes, then they can’t keep our humanity in focus in other cases, too.
By all means, let’s criticize these women’s actions, because they did shit that hurt people. But let’s stop pretending like laughing at their faces is anything other than just looking for an excuse to focus on their bodies as opposed to their actions.
When I think about how bad it is to be a sociopath who practices medicine without a license with online “lab” goods and homebrew first aid and raised a whole kid into your shady lifestyle…why, it’s almost as bad as looking like a WOMAN OVER FORRRTY!
Like fuck this lady but christ.
@Nightflyer and @anon61221983 are both correct. And to pile on
The way they look would never have been brought up for discussion if they were men.
Anytime any women does something, whether it is illegal, wrong, evil, glorious, or inspiring, any discussion of that action will involve someone commenting on how they look and whether those looks please the male gaze or fit unrealistic (and primarily white) beauty standards.
It happens every damned time because deep down, most people judge women first and foremost on their looks. Including other women
Oh god and the comments that happen if they are hot…
Idk. It’s also simply true that people are going to comment on looks, especially shocking and deformed looks like this. Especially shocking and deformed looks on two people who were selling this to others who didn’t look at these two and think “not me!”
OTOH the comparisons are often telling about a lot of other negative biases.
Unfortunately when gender is anything but completely ambiguous, it will influence some degree of people’s reactions I think. And when it is completely ambiguous people can get very hateful fast. Because this apparently is what it means to have a gender in the human species. Fun.
Nobody in this thread thinks that unlicensed people injecting mysterious substances into people is a good thing… why do we have to add insult to injury (literally?) by saying “…and they’re ugly, too!” How is that necessary?
Unfortunately, culture (and US culture tends to run strongly ageist and misogynist) has a tendency to colonize our minds in ways we aren’t always aware of. And even when we do recognize deep-rooted biases in our heads, they’re difficult to eradicate. Heaven knows, I’m still fighting the good fight in my own brain and I’m a woman in my 50s… it ain’t easy.
Given the level of carelessness displayed with their own business activities, if they had done each others faces, I suspect they wouldn’t have faces left.
An XLNT point, dear Shuck.
Can we judge them by their work? Or, is this some type of “This village has two barbers, which one do you choose to cut your hair” type of logical puzzle?
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