Yeah, follow the money. They don’t say where the money is from.
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Pretty sure Snagglepuss is a DemSoc.
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A Pinko, even!
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I had the same thought until I realized the danger is that the Lincoln Project actually achieves their goal and replaces Trump as GOP candidate with someone more swampy but better at pretending to care.
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Loganberries?
This is not going to happen in the 2020 election, though. Unless Trump keels over from something, or quits in a fit of pique, the GOP is not going to run a different candidate. It would enrage all the Trump fans, and while they’re not numerous enough to win an election by their own, there are more than enough of them to split the vote and guarantee the Republican not-Trump candidate will be crushed. And this will probably mean down-ballot crushing of plenty of GOP senate and house candidates too.
So if you genuinely feel like throwing a few bucks at Lincon Project, don’t worry about that. 
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I think it is more likely that ~2% of 2016 Trump voters will say that they voted for Hillary but will vote for Trump this time.
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…that involve shooting and killing other human beings. I can choose to better my standard of living by robbing banks running scams or selling drugs. what concideration from you would I get then? poverty should be stopped but so should foreign wars for capitalism.
American govt has been treating soldiers lives like garbage they can waste on stupid objectives since 9/11 and mostly the same before then. they need to be informed that their choice to “better their situation” is to make it a billion times worse.
or you know, they like killing and went into it for that…
Analysis on point.
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Some do that too… it might shock you to know that organized crime also involves shooting and killing other human beings.
I’m sympathetic to people who have to make such toxic choices due to entrenched poverty and racism.
I never said otherwise. That doesn’t change the situation at the moment for the working poor, especially communities of color, who are some of the least powerful people in America.
I’m aware of that, as someone whose stepfather died of a cancer likely from the Vietnam war…
So, you do think that the working poor is responsible for the crimes of the American government…
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thats an odd choice of response to me insinuating that some of them would not have a problem being complicit with American policy if it mean they got to murder someone.
you dismiss everything I said but you didn’t address why we SHOULD think of the feelings of those who sign up which was what I was picking holes in. without a draft existing I DO think that the working poor WHO ENLIST are COMPLICIT in the crimes of the American government.
can you explain your ‘but they poor though’ statement. like why make it? what does it signify? if it is an excuse for signing up is it also an excuse for American policy? “I was only following orders” has a long history of not amounting to anything
Another…
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It’s an odd choice to determine you know someone’s internal motivations.
Not really, no. I disagreed with you.
People sign up for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons is that the military is seen as the least worst option for some. That doesn’t preclude many signing up because they like murdering people or people signing up out of a real sense of patriotic duty or people signing up because it’s a family legacy, or people signing up because they are a fuck up and someone told them the army will straighten them out or, etc, etc. I was specifically addressing structural economic issues in driving recruitment.
If you’re an American, then so are you. So am I.
I did. There is structural inequality and the military is one path out. If you read my original post, you would have seen that.
Because it’s a point worth addressing.
That economic factors help drive people’s decision making on their futures, especially for people who are working poor.
No, because privates in the US military don’t make policy.
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Bank robbers and drug dealers are never involved in violence? TIL.
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No, see, that’s difference, because it’s violence often deployed on American working class, the architects of American foreign policy, so that’s okay then! /s
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Wow, that’s a shitty take. You watch too many movies. I’m against American imperialism and military adventurism, but I also have friends and family members who have served in the military. They didn’t do so in order to kill people. Eddie Gallagher is very much an anomaly in the US armed forces, and the vast majority of them despise him. Funny, that the people who seem to worship him are those who have never been in the military and have never been within 5,000 miles of combat.
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Is that you, Beau?
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And something like 50% of service members are minorities. They’re also responsible for the racism that left them so few options? Poor people are sooo powerful. /s
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My father was part of the effort to kill Nazis. There’s no way he ever had to apologize for that.
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My Pop Pop, too.
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