I’m not eating it right now right now!
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For all intents and purposes possession was pretty much decriminalized in Canada already. Focus was on trafficking. The funny part is that the police will probably go after illegal traffickers even more now because they’ll be cutting into government tax revenues. 
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This was posted more than 4 hours ago with no posting since! I’m concerned Papasan has REEFER MADNESS! Someone call the mounties!
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The pizza arrived, and now it’s gone’zo…
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My friend at work was like:
“So I bought some stock in a Canadian legal weed company. It’s up a little.”
“You fool! As soon as they make a little bit they will cash out and blow all their money on Twinkies! You got to diversify! Split it between that company and Hostess and Nabisco to hedge your bets.”
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I’m looking forward to even more impaired driving than we currently have. But hey, a bunch deaths due at the hands of stoned drivers are so totally worth it, right? I mean, what’s more important than our right to get high?
Citations needed
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“The percentage of Canadian drivers killed in vehicle crashes who test positive for drugs (40%) now actually exceeds the numbers who test positive for alcohol (33%)”
Seems reasonable that legalisation won’t help this issue. As a cyclist (I rarely drive) this seems like a real fucking problem to me. 40%. Let that sink in. 40%. To be fair, perhaps drugs don’t increase that odds of crashing and killing/dying, and that 40% of Canadians would test positive in a random test.
I say this as someone who just had someone back into my car fairly hard and nearly strike someone in the process who was high as fuck:
Meh.
People shouldn’t drive or do a bunch of other things impaired. Obviously legal or not, people are going to do it. Though through education awareness campaigns, we might reduce things some.
But for as many social ills things like booze, weed, and smoking cause, making them illegal just seems to compound problems in other areas.
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People will do shit, yes. But how many people? I don’t see legalisation as reducing the numbers of cannabis users. Opposite, perhaps. Obviously, the assessment is that a greater good is served by a policy likely to have more people dying on the roads. The greater good, and all that, I guess.
The outcome of being struck by a stoned driver while I’m cycling or walking might not be “meh”.
Nor would the life long ramification of a drug conviction be “meh”. Like I said, I am not blind or dismissing impaired drivers. Only that I’d rather vices be legal, and we work on minimizing the harm they cause in other ways. Making it illegal hasn’t really worked.
Personally, I am more worried about getting hit by a distracted or texting driver.
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I’m worried about that, too. But impaired driving typically does not attract meaningful nor adequate censure. The drivers are back on the street soon enough. Nor does running down and even killing vulnerable road users. These are usually just considered an “oopsie”.
My point was really just that from a risk perspective, legalizing cannabis seems likely to make our roads more dangerous. This is viewed as an acceptable outcome in the complex range of issues under consideration. As a vulnerable road user, I am not convinced.
No. Alcohol impaired driving just is not the same as cannabis impaired driving (imho and experience I mean or so I am told).
Sure you should not drive high AF, nor should you drive drunk AF. But (baring body chemistry differences etc etc) getting moderately high makes you way less intoxicated, numb, slow, stupid or foolish. Instead (or so I’ve been told) cannabis opens subtle vistas of the mind, connects channels of conviviality and bon homie while enhancing the senses, appetite and the intimate senses. Uh or so I’ve been told? I think it was Carl Sagan who said that.
yeah
I don’t drive at all when baked or blasted, so nbd. I’d sooner die than hit a cyclist (as I’m often cycling hither n yon) or more likely wreck my car
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Why? That canna cookie is no more legal now then it was yesterday. Edibles not legal. Might be in a year.
I just purchased my first legal cannabis from the Ontario Cannabis Store.
Mostly symbolic. I might not even consume the pre-roll… maybe seal it in a glass tube for future reference.
ETA: my order was completed ~12:15am, about 13 mins after I was able to load the page. My order # was in the mid 5000’s. Not sure if they started at #0001 or not.
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In my opinion changing impaired driving laws would be more effective. In some European countries (like Poland) drunk driving, even without causing accident, can result in a prison sentence if the alcohol level in blood is high enough. Running down cyclist or pedestrian is also definitely not considered an an “oopsie”.
I agree. I’m actually not against legalisation of cannabis. I see mostly benefits, other than in this one area. We need to take road safety, and in particular the safety of vulnerable users far more seriously. Driving needs to be a privilege, not a right. Impaired and distracted driving, combined with ever more powerful and fast cars (which ironically, due to better engineering and sound insulation seem slower and safer to the driver) is an epidemic. Road deaths and injury trends are reversing for the first time in decades.
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Perhaps he’s still in the hashish business and wants to stifle the competition.
You’re thinking of Doug Ford, I’m talking about François Legault, who AFAIK is just an old-fashioned reefer madness type, not a hash mogul.
I think there’s now going to be more focus on impaired, specifically weed-impaired, driving in Canada. People have been driving high forever, but very little noise has been made about it until recently. Now we’re going to get roadside piss tests, and I expect a lot more highway stops in general. If you want to be really paranoid about it (pot paranoia, whee!), government sales records could be a handy resource for police looking for people who need a roadside spot check.
As for people who think they drive better high: there might be a few such people, but they tend to be gigantic assholes because they tend to assume their own response to the drug is the same as everyone else’s, so they make a lot of noise about how driving high is just great, dude. Meanwhile, many people can barely open a bag of chips while baked, yet these bozos expect us to believe that people are not only good to drive but better drivers?
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