Trump on Cruz: "Pussy"

Bugs you too, right?

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it’s “peanut butter sour-grape jelly time”

Oh man, don’t ham-fist all over my etymology / entomology pun, damn it.

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I like ‘nutsack’.

Look at that fucking nutsack, huh?

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Well, it could refer to cats, especially young ones, being easy to startle. An equivalent of scaredy-cat. The way slang attributes new meanings to existing words is hard to track.

But I’m not sure it’s really important how this meaning came to the word (mainly in North America). Its sexist connotation doesn’t need to be at its roots to be real.

When there was the controversy around PEN’s award to Charlie Hebdo, Salman Rushdie took some flak for using the word on Twitter towards the authors who protested. “The award will be given. PEN is holding firm. Just 6 pussies. Six Authors in Search of a bit of Character.” In doing so, he was falling in an entrapment of rhetoric, as he reused the word that was first used by the person he was answering to. It’s unfortunate, because otherwise the tweet was fine, with an even brilliant reference to Pirandello’s play Six Characters in Search of an Author. Later on he explained how he came to this and stated that he shouldn’t have done so.

I remember that, in defense of Salman Rushdie, someone proposed a connection between “pussy” and “pusillanimous”. I very much doubt it holds water, but that’s missing the point anyway.

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Hah! What did I miss? I made 3 edits right after I posted - obvious typos etc - even though given the context I thought I proofread well. Damn you Murphy!

It is all made up for by tropo’s “Bugs you too, right?” comment.

Er… Muphry… Just actually read the wikipedia snippet.

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Meh, I should read more of the previous arguments before posting. I realize that my post is largely redundant, except for the anecdote about Salman Rushdie.

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Hey, I’m pretty sure “pussy” just refers to cats. Yeah, I’m sure that’s plausible…

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I think this is a case of multiple connotations which aren’t necessarily carried over in every metaphor. In the UK in the past, calling someone a pussycat or nursery rhymes referring to pussies had nothing to do with genitals, and it wasn’t supposed to be an insult - it’s just saying that someone was cute, small and/or timid. Using the term to refer to female genitals could be for the same reason as when people use other terms for animals, food, gendered names etc. English and other languages use mouse, beaver, rabbit, dove, cat etc., while there are others for male genitals. I just think the language has evolved to make this term more offensive, particularly in the US, which makes the idea that it’s just referring to timidity without any secondary meaning less plausible. Shouting in a crowd that a political opponent is a pussy sounds like it was intended to be more offensive than a reference to a cat would indicate. Trump is a complete cock, by which of course I mean that he is proud of himself and whatever is on top of his head looks ridiculous.

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that’s eloquent for a turd.

That woman in the last panel is so me right now.

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Jesus christ, the Trump, Trump chanting had me fear-closing the video in a hurry. That is positively terrifying. You’ve got to stop that guy, please vote.

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You’re not advising people on how to react, you’re just saying “this is how you should react”?

I imagine you’re capable of empathy and self-reflection, maybe even good at it, so why do you insist on not employing those tools?

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I imagine you’re capable of reading and understanding, maybe even good at it, so why do you insist on not employing those tools?

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I understand that telling people “don’t over react, and don’t jump to conclusions” is exactly “advising people on how to react.”

I also understand that the meanings words have are not accidental or arbitrary.

Where’s your disconnect?

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Telling people how not to react is entirely different from telling them how to react. I know you know this.
If I tell my kid they can do any sport they like, just don’t over-push yourself, I’m not telling them which sport they have to do.
Have any reaction you like, just don’t blow it out of proportion.
The disconnect is yours.

That’s blatantly false. If you are telling people what is impermissible, you are telling them what they are allowed to do (ie, “anything other than this”). By way of comparison, if I say “Sit on this bus however you want, but not in the front seat,” I’m telling people where they can sit on a bus. If I say “You can say whatever you want, but no curse words,” I’m telling people what they can say. If I say “You can wear what you want, but no T-shirts,” I’m telling people what they can wear. In none of those instances can I reasonably imagine that I’m not trying to police what people are doing.

You are trying to control what they choose.

The only way you can actually avoid policing what people are reacting is if you stop trying to tell people how they are permitted to react. Don’t imagine that you have any say, or that your opinion matters. Accept that people are going to do whatever they want and you can’t stop them. Trying to police how others react (or how your kid plays sports) is presuming that you can make decisions that aren’t yours to make. You don’t have that responsibility, or that authority.

And then think about why words mean what they mean.

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Hold on, I saw a gif that answers that.