@anon50609448 tends to do that
Trump once thought a bloody man died at Mar-a-Lago and he turned away, upset about the stained floor
Why is it that American right-wingers have such a crush on marines? (e.g. that “Marine Todd” story that was going round a while ago: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/marine-todd )
It’s always a marine that shows up to punch the lefty Islamist protesters in right-wing fantasies, not an army soldier. Is it because there are fewer black and hispanic marines compared to the army and navy? ( http://www.statisticbrain.com/demographics-of-active-duty-u-s-military/ )
Yes, that’s what the Cluster B Personality Disorders look like.
Also, this is a really really comfy armchair.
I tend to agree with your analysis.
Who knows what evil lurks in his heart, but he has this almost synthetic speech pattern and I agree the way he relates to people seems rather alien at times.
My mom can be weird at times with emotions. She will sometimes have a rather random reaction that doesn’t fit the setting. Its because she gets a bit overwhelmed and not sure what to do she just makes a left turn.
Would you be offended if I don’t vote for your Mom for President?
Maybe President of the Best Mom’s club, yeah, sure, but not US President.
I don’t think she would want that job anyway.
Not that I don’t love dunking on Trump, but woudn’t a sociopath be excited by blood? (Or at least have literally no reaction)
If I’m reading correctly, he was grossed out by the blood. It’s narcicistic of him to not care about the man, but being digusted by blood does imply at least a little bit of squeamishness IMHO.
(Not the being a narcissist is any better, I just want to be precise when insulting out MAGA C.H.U.D. Piss Lord)
If he were a sociopath we’d already be dead.
Thing about it is, you really don’t need to know the make and model of the bus than runs you down, just that there is a tiny handed maniac behind the wheel
Marines, among the armed forces members I know, are considered especially brainwashed and loyal to organization. Even moreso than the army.
I’ve heard USAF, US army, US Navy, and UK Navy guys all say that the Marine Corps is pretty much a cult. But that’s just my own experience.
So, I’m guessing that when authoritarians (IE conservatives) go out looking for good soldiers to load their agenda onto, the most rabidly loyal and dogmatic branch seems ideal.
This is merely a guess, but perhaps a well organised army looks too much like a European welfare state to be appealing to the right wing – with all its communal living, free health care, detailed planning and its respect for academia.
As opposed to how the Marines seem to be defined by their (supposedly) superior training, which allows for typical Ayn Rand narratives of an individual overcoming resistance, beating the odds and finally achieving a well deserved superior status.
So I get that there’s a charity event and all the ‘rich people’ are there ostensibly to support the charity but really to profile themselves.
Fine, that’s how charity events work. You appeal to the vanity of the rich with just a slight hint that unless they are seen to give generously they will a) not be welcome in the rich folks’ circles and b) the lumpenproletariat might rise up in outrage and eat them.
But can anyone explain to me why the Red Cross ball is apparently an event to support Marines?
Sounds more like a Cluster F to me
@L0ki, And why doesn’t a Red Cross event have a doctor in the house?
@TheGreatParis I was going to add, “Bacteriological Warfare = Awesomerer as it leaves the buildings intact”; but then the Republican Military/Industrial Complex Business Model has been, “Blow shit up and charge the victims to replace it.”
I’ve got a lot of competing theories about why Trump behaves the way he does. One of those theories is that he is actually basically terrified of everything, and the bluster and posturing that we see is him overcompensating in order to try to bluff his way out of it.
It’s worth noting, however, that it’s also just as likely that he really is just an impenetrably dense, sociopathic megalomaniac.
I think I want the first to be true because it seems somehow better to me, even if the results are the same. I think I’m more comfortable with the notion that he’s a person who is suffering from deep psychological damage and acting out in response to that than I am with the notion of him being just this being of pure id. I can relate to the former, and the former can be reasoned with if you figure out which wounds to soothe, but the latter is foreign to me–I may as well be trying to relate to an angler fish.
That’s possible too, but after thinking about what I said before, I think I got some things backward about who can be reasoned with. The fear-driven person who exhibits sociopathic behavior is probably the one that is harder to reach.
Here’s my hypothesis on that:
I believe that there is evidence to support the idea that extreme personal insecurity can be the sort of catalyst that results in sociopathic behavior, with the psychological “mechanism,” so to speak. Basically going something like, “I am fearful of other people”->“other people are afraid of people that act like this”->“if I make other people afraid of me, they’re will be afraid to hurt me”->“the more people who are afraid of me, the safer I will feel”->“feeling safe makes me happy,” and so on back to the beginning of the cycle.
If that’s a real pathway toward that kind of behavior, I think it makes them more dangerous than a person who through some fluke of biology was born without what we colloquially call a “conscience” or the ability to relate to other people. Those people can learn/be taught to address that problem logically, and can understand that it’s beneficial to them to try to emulate empathy. In these cases, a person thus afflicted doesn’t act the way they do out of malice in the same sense as a neurotypical person might understand it–their behavior is the result of a bit of “software” (if you will) that is missing or malfunctioning, and they can be reasoned with and taught about societal and social norms and why it’s beneficial to them to try to follow them. A mild parallel: I’m autistic, and when I was a kid I got in trouble all the time for breaking lots of rules that everybody else just seemed to know automatically, but I didn’t. I wasn’t intending to be rude, it’s just that my brain happens to be really bad at certain kinds of things, such as picking up on social cues and reading other people’s emotions. At a certain point I was able to figure out that this was happening, and I was able to learn how to compensate for those problems and things got a lot better for me. Little me wasn’t really a rude asshole, he just didn’t know “the rules” and wasn’t very good at picking up on them without being specifically instructed.
If the person is driven to that kind of behavior purely by fear, it’s not like the fear goes away once they get rich or powerful, if anything it gets worse because it makes them more paranoid. They have to become more wrathful and more unpredictable in order to keep people more afraid of them than they are of other people, and it turns into a sort of feedback loop, with each cycle leading to more and more extreme behavior until they exhibit the same kinds of behavioral traits as a “true” sociopath. Unlike a “true” sociopath, however, they can’t be reasoned with or “taught” how not to behave this way because it’s not a matter of a piece of “missing software,” it’s their all-consuming defense mechanism against a world they believe is basically out to get them at every turn.
With all of that said, I’m not a psychologist and I don’t know if that line of reasoning has any validity or real scientific evidence to back it up. I’m just kind thinking aloud at this point.
Excellent response, have a great weekend.
Sorry, I’m a bit prone to writing walls of text
Leaps and bounds, and a few tactical rolls as well.
In mine it is more of a brotherhood.
Example: guy I know happened upon a Marine dress sabre and returned it to the owner who had it stolen 15 years ago.
Not sure if I would consider them brain washed. Honestly that is kinda insulting, I think. They are loyal to each other.
Fun fact, Drew Carey was a Marine and makes comments to other Marines on the Price is Right from time to time.