If I may quote two of the standard callbacks from RHPS:
“You call that a man?”
“You call that a tan?”
and what she’s saying is a lie anyway. they’ve never been found in contempt of court, and they are in fact allowing watchers to within 6 feet now instead of 20. ( they appear to have taken some small amount of time to comply – but probably because they were verifying the court order, and they weren’t counting votes during that time )
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Fine details of standing only matter if you have a court dedicated to upholding the rule of law. We don’t. They can grab a congresscritter to be the aggrieved party and issue emergency stays. If the stay is ignored they can incarcerate someone on contempt. The Republican strategy worked because they had a devoted Senate and a compliant court. Biden is unlikely to have either in the scenarios under discussion.
The Senate has more power and they also control the courts. They have a lot more room to be obstructionist.
The reality being that a bunch of us civilized folk are held absolutely hostage by all the ignorant rednecks. Kinda like America as a whole, except that we don’t have to travel to Flyover Country to see treasonous flags flown proudly.
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No cop, no stop.
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cops are the threat of violence and jail. that’s an option, but there’s almost always more creative and useful solutions.
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Your theory rather relies on the unspoken assumption that the conservative majority on the Supreme Court will just let Biden dither and delay and use procedural excuses to let him do whatever he wants the way it did for Trump.
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If the question here is about how “a Republican Senate and Supreme Court would hold Biden to the technicalities,” then the Supreme Court can certainly issue rulings but Biden and his appointees are not going to incarcerate themselves.
Congress can’t really lock anybody up unless they voluntarily visit the Capitol grounds and surrender themselves, and SCOTUS has no power at all except what the executive branch chooses to enforce.
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It kinda sounds like you’re advocating for a fascist dictatorship.
I submit that I voted for Joe Biden because I don’t want one of those.
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just pointing out that “incarceration” is not a tool an opposition party can use in a power struggle
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I didn’t mean it quite so literally; I was referring to the fact that a certain type of person only plays by the rules if there is active and definitive enforcement. Whereas some of us strive to do the right thing even when nobody is watching.
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The lesson from the last four years is that the current system doesn’t have all the checks and controls required to prevent a fascist dictatorship. It lacks all of the tools required to deal with the incremental steps depending on social norms and decorum for the little things. With only impeachment and voting as balances. Tools that are so broad and large that they can fall to the mountain of little things first.
Not advocating for a fascist dictatorship, but for real controls and checks to be put in place to allow stopping the small stuff early before it’s to late.
There’s no sense playing by the old rule book if the next guy can continue to ignore it. We have to rewrite the actual rules not the unwritten ones.
The only way to accomplish that is to do stuff that the party of “no” finds worse than doing nothing. It’s a bonus that those are all things that can actually help people too.
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SCOTUS has the Marshal of the Supreme Court(Different than the Marshals under the executive). https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/672 and the Senate has the Sergeant at Arms of the Senate. Both have legal arrest powers and aren’t under the executive.
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I wonder how effectively he can hold a rally from inside a prison cell…
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I wonder if Trump knows who Eugene V Debs was?
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Or from his grave.
That clock hasn’t stopped ticking.
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