Trump says Barack "Hussein" Obama and Hillary Clinton founded ISIS

…Because reminding people of Obama’s middle name has worked out so well for the GOP in the last two presidential elections.

7 Likes

He’s lying through his teeth (again) - Trump never warned against the Iraq war:

6 Likes

They’ll be boring as trump is not likely to show. Curious to see the VP debate, though. There’s no way Tim Kaine’t beat Pence like a cheap rug.

1 Like

Julian Fellowes created Isis!

3 Likes

… in giant pyramidal grain silos.

4 Likes

from anon73629133 (formerly known as f͇̯̝̹̼͈͉̗̩̩̭̼̦̙̣̒͊͌̊ͭ̆̌ͦͧ̋̑̀͟͢u̴̯͍͖̱͓̠͉̺̤̖͔̯̲̖̻ͦ͊͛͌͌̏̽̅͊̚͜͠n̸̡̟͎͖̭̹̮ͫ͌ͨ͗͋̏͛̚͢r͆̂̐ͤ͐ͥ̿͆̈́҉͎̹̙̼̘͚̩͕ͅu̪͔͇̝͖̯͚͖͇͉̥̻̠̝̥͌ͫ̉̓ͮͥ́ͩ̇ͫ́̐͗͆͠͠ͅl̛̛͚͕̳̤̮̩̻̙̻̗̰̬͙ͥ͆͊̍ͩͭͧ̌ͦͯ̍̓̃ͯ̌̏͘͟͝y̶͉͚̯̜ͯ̓̄ͯ͒ͬ̆̑ͮ̂̋̀́̚͢)

9 Likes

well @TheGreatParis he doubled down today…

“No, I meant he’s the founder of ISIS,” Trump said. “I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.”

8 Likes

…that’s basically confirming the idea that he’s using “founder” to mean “caused the creation of.” (bolded part is the slightly coherent part) …and being weirdly insistent about the terminology?

4 Likes

I would have argued that al-Zarqawi, the founder of al-Qaeda in Iraq, or al-Zawahiri who took over after al-Zarqawi’s death and renamed the organization to ISIS was the founder of ISIS. One can argue about responsibilities for the creation of the causes and conditions that allowed them to found the organization (with the Iraq invasion as the root cause and condition), but the founders themselves are, you know, the actual founders, not the people who created the conditions for the founders to create their organization.

11 Likes

But that ain’t a tweet.
That was Trump speaking, not one of his political handlers.

2 Likes

That’s way to many words. I’ll just say “founded.” Because, trust me on this, this is the way winners talk, believe me.

4 Likes

11 Likes

No, he won’t be shown to have his pants around his ankles because they’re not actually debates. He’ll get to make crazy statements like this and not have them followed up extensively where he has to back them with facts.

4 Likes

I get what you’re saying, I do. And I would completely agree with you if we were discussing a person with through processes that made sense to normal humans. But if someone tells me multiple times that they mean something ridiculous, I stop trying to interpret for them and take them at their word.

Even if he doesn’t truly believe the literal interpretation (and he probably doesn’t), he’s actively trying to make other people believe it.

1 Like

Well his supporters keeps eating this stuff up and think his views are quite elequent

3 Likes

Trump can’t explain the real problem where modern war is a self perpetuating machine, designed, maintained, and governed by people like Clinton and the US defense industry, or else he would be in danger of opposing it himself.

Instead, just blame clinton for the whole damn thing, it’s what the voters really want to hear anyway.

2 Likes

It’s inarguable that Trump and similar nationalists have done their best to promote ISIS through rhetoric of hate and xenophobia of even US-based Muslims.

6 Likes

A chance for my liver to make a break for it?

1 Like

Best case scenario? After election day in November, he pulls off a mask and reveals this:

19 Likes

Why does anyone give a shit what he thinks?

Oh right. He’s the Republican fucking nominee.

… - - - …

2 Likes