If that were the guiding principle, then warfare would have died out long ago.
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It should be, but there are too many people willing to waste the lives of others for short term gain.
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I think the “Russian Agent” theory is more plausible because if Trump loses, which is looking more and more likely, he has invited so much attention to Trump University, among other egregious dealings, that he might end up in jail. Nobody is going to prosecute someone who might be President, but after the election he’s fair game.
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In the U.S., at least. As I understand it, this is a big problem in the U.K., because speaking the truth doesn’t save one from being convicted of either slander or libel.
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/derail
That was about Korea, wasn’t it? (or Vietnam? or Afghanistan?). Moscow isn’t in Asia.
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I am really amazed that people think anyone will care about this a month from now, much less a year.
Last poll I saw he was only behind nine points and that is people choosing him to make very important decisions about their lives, and the lives of their children. You think this will have an ounce of impact on their vacation plans? Seriously? If almost half the voting public is willing to trust their lives with him, well, that is a pretty solid foundation for a brand.
I hope no one thinks that tape means this election is over. I guess it may help you sleep better, but it’s way more faith than reason.
Trump will likely fade. His businesses will take a serious hit. But the more successful he is, the more valid his core base remains as an avenue for political success.
That’s actually a remarkable lead these days, but it just underlines what I’m saying. The Trumpvestites hang around. Maybe they ditch Trump. Maybe they get a new name. Maybe they spin off into their own party. Maybe they linger in the GOP and continue to cause problems or struggles over ideology, or tank right wing electoral chances. Maybe some opportunistic groups can coalition up with them and make them some sort of political force. However small or large a part they are of the GOP and Trumps support. These are people who genuinely exist, and genuinely believe as he does (even if he’s less than genuine himself). That element will stick around and continue to cause problems, the more problems they cause the more people will notice them. And the more people will care about this in a month, a year, a decade. Its not for nothing that so many people are frightened of Trump.
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That depends on your level of pedantry, I suppose – and whether you consider Europe to be a continent or not.
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Much more accurate assessment of Trump’s polling status.
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“Eurasia” is the usual thing. They sort of run together. And Russia is the point where they do so.
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http://lawandthemultiverse.com
There’s also a book.
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I think we tend to project progressivism, in ideology AND lifestyle, on the majority. There are a shit-ton of flip phones out there my friend, and let’s not forget what age are brackets most likely to vote, and which are least likely.
Granny taking the bus tours is less apt to really know or care and way more apt to not even notice the name of her hotel. The rich guy who owns the bus tour company, though, is probably voting for Trump.
But we have always been at war with Eurasia!
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I thought that we have always been at war with Eastasia, though…
Checks last week’s newspaper
Nope. You’re right. Sorry.
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Absolutely! But the reality is that polling centers almost exclusively call listed numbers on phone lists, which means that the vast majority of numbers they call are land-line phones. So polls are still more or less accurate, but just keep in mind that the responders are, by and large, people with land-lines, which skews older.
I have to wonder how many people even answer their phone much anymore. If I don’t recognize a number, or if it’s not programmed as a contact in my phone, I don’t answer. Because if you answer, and it’s spam, you get bucket loads of more spam calls.
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Are you reading this on a cell phone? Then yes. The hand is shown at 1:1.
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That’s actually a remarkable lead these days, but it just underlines what I’m saying.
It’s not so much about the lead, as it is the total numbers it represents. If it were 15 points, that still means a substantial percentage of the American public can overlook these things enough to trust their lives to him. Tens of millions, if you consider the polls representative of reality.
Someone who can get tens of millions of people to trust him with their lives is probably not really seeing a big hit on the brand, outside the bloggernet.
That element will stick around and continue to cause problems, the more
problems they cause the more people will notice them. And the more
people will care about this in a month, a year, a decade. Its not for
nothing that so many people are frightened of Trump.
I think as long as we look rationally at that “element” and see it is probably along the lines of fifty to a hundred million people in the US alone, sure. I think a lot of the problem with how this phenomenon is seen is locative. Bloggers and vocal progressives look around and they can’t see anyone who supports Trump, it seems almost a joke. On the other hand outside these bubbles, there are places you can go where you’d have just as hard a time finding anyone who would vote for Clinton.
You don’t need a consensus to have a strong brand. Look at all the dire crap the leading merchandising brands commit, and they remain leading brands. I don’t think for a moment he will win, but if he gets forty, even thirty percent of the vote, his brand is going be just fine with tens of millions of people avid fans.
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I was hoping some one would go there.
My father has been on the same line for a year. After the conventions. After each debate thus far. He keeps going on about how even though Hillary is clearly better for the job. And clearly won out. All “those people” who love Jerry Springer so much will just vote Trump twice. Because he’s crass! He’s entertaining! LOW INFORMATION VOTERS LOVE THAT.
After each exposure Trump has tanked in the polls. Granny with her flip phone who couldn’t care less? She won’t vote. Because she couldn’t care less. Low information voters are certainly a thing. But every time they’re actually exposed to Trump, in those big public events that are meant to reach out them. Significant numbers seem to turn away. True Progressiveism might not be in the majority. But Dems have a slight electoral and membership advantage. And ideologically too. The hardcore conservative, and hardcore Trumpist are far from the silent Majority they claim to be. To a certain extent Trump underlines that, he’s chasing off chunks of the GOP coalition. And the working class white base is eating his shit up despite not matching up with the key values espoused by the GOP. I forget the exact numbers but something like 80% of the country lives in a major Metro area, and 60% on either coasts. The red states are pretty sparsely populated, and their largest ones (save Texas) are slowly turning purple. The “those people in flyover country don’t know anybetter” always struck me as just crass liberal hand wringing.
Maybe. But I’m sitting in the NYC Metro Area and I wish that were the case. It is sort of Trumps area of highest support (NY and NJ). But the Trump set is so vocal, so angry, so dismissive of anything else that its hard to believe that. My dad, as mentioned above. Is terrified of Trump. His work place is apparently nothing my hardcore pussy grabbers. He refuses to even wear a blue shirt to work anymore.
Exactly, yes. Older voters tend to vote, and older voters also tend to vacation, and older voters also tend to be uninformed and take far less seriously these kinds of scandals.
So in terms of brand, the point of the article above? Nah, his brand isn’t going to be bigly harmed by this, and long term might even get a bump upwards. His brand has never been about long term success in any one business anyway. For him it is about attaching his name to a project to get investors, then to stay just long enough to loot it and run.
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